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re: Does anyone else find themselves questioning a lot of the Civil Rights propaganda…
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:00 am to crazy4lsu
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:00 am to crazy4lsu
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Are there any visible examples of policies that violate human rights in the history of the US?
Sure. Like I said, it's fine to say that the law should protect "fundamental human rights", but it's not really a useful observation because people don't agree on what those are.
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:00 am to burger bearcat
Libertarians oppose state funding of education.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:01 am to wackatimesthree
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That one is true.
FUBU.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:01 am to ned nederlander
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Southern politicians largely demanded the states be deputized to dole out the benefits.
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“In New York and the northern New Jersey suburbs, fewer than 100 of the 67,000 mortgages insured by the GI bill supported home purchases by non-whites.”
The myth that southerners are/ were more racist than Yankees
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:07 am to TigerFanatic99
Sure
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:08 am to Flats
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Like I said, it's fine to say that the law should protect "fundamental human rights", but it's not really a useful observation because people don't agree on what those are.
Again, if I said that people should have the right of self-determination, who would disagree? I could list out, verbatim, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and you would no doubt agree with all of them.
It’s extremely difficult to grow up in the West and not have the relatively same conception of human rights as everyone else in the west. The point here is that people do agree, broadly, and often the debates are on the order of the rights, as in debates in Germany after the 2nd WW where they wrangled over the issue of whether dignity or justice. Even though everyone broadly agrees with the idea that all humans have a right to free speech, there isn’t a country in the world which doesn’t impose some sort of legal limit on the concept. So while broadly, they agree on free speech being a right, they have both different interpretations of that right, usually based on their own history and experience with the concept.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:08 am to burger bearcat
I question absolutely everything now and understand that most of what I have been told is either a lie or highly misconstrued to fit what narrative they wanted at the time.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:09 am to Flats
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FUBU.
For us, by us?
I don't get it.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:09 am to burger bearcat
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The truth you probably won’t hear, is many black people actually liked segregation. Then when everything was de-segregated they couldn’t compete, their
They still do to this day. Look at all the HBCU schools across the country.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:12 am to crazy4lsu
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Even though everyone broadly agrees with the idea that all humans have a right to free speech
Everyone doesn't agree with that at all. And throughout history even fewer have agreed with it.
I think it's pretty obvious that a baby in utero has a right to not be killed, but half of this country thinks otherwise.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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His post ignored all the institutional racism and segregation, which I do not believe in. Specifically the denial of rights to people based on irrational factors like skin color.
The liberal assumption that “skin color” is an irrational factor is absurd. It requires an ignorance of historical reality.
I understand that in the United States of America, the precedent of rights and race are different. This doesn’t change the fact that private citizens should still have the right to freely associate with who they wish.
But in countries where this precedent doesn’t exist, for example, England or Ireland, they absolutely reserve the right to be an “English” or “Irish” nation.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:13 am to TigersWin88
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This doesn’t change the fact that private citizens should still have the right to freely associate with who they wish.
I agree, and in 99.9% of cases, you can.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:14 am to burger bearcat
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The whole narrative of a bunch of angry white racists filled with hate. That entire era just seems completely fake and contrived to me, and now I find myself even questioning a lot of the slavery narratives and level of brutality surrounding it compared to anywhere else in the world at the time.
This thought really popped into your head?
You ever spend any time in rural Mississippi?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:14 am to burger bearcat
What if Hitler was actually just trying to save his country from Jewish invasion? What if he simply wanted to maintain traditional German values?
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:14 am to wackatimesthree
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For us, by us?
I don't get it.
It was just an easy pop culture example of willful segregation. Not necessarily the ugly clothes but the sentiment behind them, which was and is still widely embraced.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:15 am to wackatimesthree
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That one is true.
You can certainly argue that point, but the suffrage movement was grassroots and scored several victories from the time the two original organizations were founded, in 1869, til the passing of the 19th amendment. Before the amendment was even passed, 16 states had given women the right to vote, and petitions for including the right to vote for women were seen well before 1869, led primarily by residents. It would be almost impossible for the suffrage movement to work if it wasn’t popular with the demographic it represented.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:15 am to burger bearcat
The vast majority of the "lynchings" that have been so demonized were mob justice of a very guilty individual.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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I agree, and in 99.9% of cases, you can.
I doubt that's within 30 points of being accurate. If you own any sort of business you're subject to protected class bullshite every day of your life. If you want to rent out the apartment over the garage you're subject to it, if you have any sort of hiring authority you're subject to it.
You KNOW how pervasive the law is in our lives.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:17 am to wackatimesthree
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Everyone doesn't agree with that at all.
They broadly do. I think you guys are not understanding how popular the Enlightenment conception of human rights actually is.
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And throughout history even fewer have agreed with it.
Again, Post-Enlightenment, it is the standard by which we define the rights of man.
Posted on 9/12/25 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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I agree, and in 99.9% of cases, you can.
Yeah no.
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