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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:11 pm to Ailsa
If any of you are, or have ever been, listed as an organ donor either on a DL or any medical form anywhere, and you have a DNR, just know that being an organ donor will halt a DNR and your family has no legal recourse to stop it in almost all states. Many people are organ donors and have no idea because state and national registries make it intentionally difficult to verify and much more difficult to remove yourself.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:12 pm to Clames
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If any of you are, or have ever been, listed as an organ donor either on a DL or any medical form anywhere, and you have a DNR, just know that being an organ donor will halt a DNR and your family has no legal recourse to stop it in almost all states. Many people are organ donors and have no idea because state and national registries make it intentionally difficult to verify and much more difficult to remove yourself.
I've never been an organ donor but that's good to know.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:13 pm to Night Vision
I mean, that's kind of what you get when you have a major surgery and you dont do your due diligence that has yours or your loved ones life in their hands.
No way this clown would have tou he'd a member of my family.
No way this clown would have tou he'd a member of my family.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:13 pm to conservativewifeymom
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DEI product most likely!
It's not DEI, it's the fact that American Students are too lazy, and or stupid, to put forth the effort to succeed in medicine, hence the overwhelming numbers of Arabs and Indians practicing medicine in the US.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:14 pm to Night Vision
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:14 pm to OchoDedos
quote:O.M.G.!
It's not DEI, it's the fact that American Students are too lazy, and or stupid, to put forth the effort to succeed in medicine
Sarcasm I hope?
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:17 pm to PaperTiger
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Was the whole operating room inconpetent? Geez
If those reports are accurate, this may be the rare malpractice case capable of offending both the individual-responsibility crowd and the systems-thinking crowd simultaneously. Either one man defeated an entire operating room, or an entire operating room collaborated in becoming one man.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:20 pm to Usmc
quote:The problem is (and this is a huge difference between our system and the European system), the kind of due diligence available to American patients is wholly inadequate. Internal quality and outcome reviews are not available for public consumption in our system due to legal considerations. Given an appropriate and productive malpractice system, that would not be the case.
I mean, that's kind of what you get when you have a major surgery and you dont do your due diligence that has yours or your loved ones life in their hands.
No way this clown would have tou he'd a member of my family.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:21 pm to TigerDoc
IF you truly are a doctor then you would be more than familiar with medical errors which are made pretty frequently. All doctors are not created equal, not even close and many are assholes with zero people skills
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:21 pm to Ailsa
quote:I'm just not sure how this doesn't show up day one of their Residency assignment or even sooner in the interviews prior to matching. But, there is no way that guy went through those programs mentioned as a fake doctor.
MAJOR BUST: Kerala Police arrested 11 suspects in a massive pan-India fake degree racket. Over 100,000 counterfeit certificates seized from 22 universities — medicine, nursing & engineering — with estimates of up to 1 MILLION fake degrees in circulation worldwide.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:21 pm to Penrod
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Indians are not the beneficiaries of DEI. They are some of the victims.
This is getting downvotes but it when it comes to academia Indians (classified as Asians in the US) are considered over represented minorities just like other Asians. They don’t fall into the same category as black, Hispanic, indigenous, etc that are considered under represented minorities
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:23 pm to Diamondawg
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I'm just not sure how this doesn't show up day one of their Residency assignment or even sooner in the interviews prior to matching. But, there is no way that guy went through those programs mentioned as a fake doctor.
Hiring DEI has been popular...just like medically treating minorities over whites is taught in med school.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:23 pm to TigerDoc
When I had my second heart surgery to replace one of the valves put in 10 earlier due to PVL (leakage was found about 3 months after my initial surgery though), the specialty hospital I went to explained how my entire surgical team was going to have a planning meeting the morning of and then a second time out to verify everything immediately before my surgery began.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:23 pm to Rip Torner
Agreed. Some doctors are outstanding, some are mediocre, and some probably shouldn't be trusted with a stapler. What's interesting here is that this particular error allegedly survived long enough to require another hospital to discover it. That seems like it tells us something about more than one person.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:24 pm to TigerDoc
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Either one man defeated an entire operating room, or an entire operating room collaborated in becoming one man.
There was that one surgeon in Florida that somehow confused someone’s liver and spleen and ended up killing the patient. And that was the 2nd time he had performed surgery on the wrong organ
Somehow this shite happens
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:25 pm to Clames
That's interesting. The people I've known who've gone through major cardiac procedures describe similar layers of verification. Which is why this case caught my attention. A surgeon can absolutely make a mistake, but when the alleged mistake is something this consequential, I start wondering whether the story is ultimately going to be about one person's error, a breakdown in the safeguards, or some combination of both.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:27 pm to idlewatcher
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No guys, we need more of these type of doctors so just chill!
you see some of the "advancements" in modern education under DEI? That should scare you more than some Jeet physician screwing up.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:27 pm to TigerDoc
quote:That is a fair point. However, if this was a pulmonary valve replacement, it changes the equation a bit.
If those reports are accurate, this may be the rare malpractice case capable of offending both the individual-responsibility crowd and the systems-thinking crowd simultaneously. Either one man defeated an entire operating room, or an entire operating room collaborated in becoming one man.
First, it is a very rare surgery.
Second, anesthesiology TEE would be hard-pressed in many instances to adequately visualize flow across the valve regardless of placement. Pulmonary valve replacement is notorious for that.
Now, presumably the man would've had a second surgeon assisting. But that does not mean that the second surgeon would necessarily be qualified to do the procedure himself in this particular instance. I wonder how many of these procedures the Portland facility has actually done, which of course would be another point brought up in the malpractice suit.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:28 pm to 1BamaRTR
Cases like that are fascinating because they become medical folklore almost immediately. Everybody remembers the surgeon who removed the wrong organ, just like everybody remembers a plane crash.
What I've always wondered is whether those stories teach us more about individual incompetence or about how complex systems fail when multiple safeguards break down at the same time.
What I've always wondered is whether those stories teach us more about individual incompetence or about how complex systems fail when multiple safeguards break down at the same time.
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