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re: "Doctor" puts girl's heart valve in upside down.

Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:31 pm to
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They don’t fall into the same category as black, Hispanic, indigenous, etc that are considered under represented minorities
There are a lot of assumptions inheritant your post. I don't know that facts back them up.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:47 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:31 pm to
That's interesting. The rarer the procedure, the more it seems like questions about institutional experience and safeguards become relevant too. I hadn't thought about the TEE issue.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:35 pm to
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There are a lot of assumptions inheritance your post. I don't know that facts back them up.

It’s pretty similar to the group of Asians that were fighting against Harvard for discrimination in admissions. Just look up MCAT scores by race. Asians have the highest avg MCAT score and GPA yet have lower acceptance % compared to other “POC”. And like I said, in the US on any official document Indians are grouped into the large category that is Asian. Sometimes there’ll be a subgroup under Asian for specific kind but most of the time it’s just Asian

Asians are grouped into POC when it’s suitable but other times are treated like white when it’s not suitable

This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:37 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:37 pm to
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If any of you are, or have ever been, listed as an organ donor either on a DL or any medical form anywhere, and you have a DNR, just know that being an organ donor will halt a DNR and your family has no legal recourse to stop it in almost all states.
DNR carries specific connotations. Normally, it is an end of life or terminal disease issue. The request to be an organ donor would be at odds with DNR classification. Usually a medical team eliciting DNR classification would not do so without counseling the patient and family regarding the former.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:39 pm to
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There are a lot of assumptions inheritance your post. I don't know that facts back them up.

I know. They DO. Indians are discriminated against in US education.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:45 pm to
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It’s pretty similar to the group of Asians
Again, I think you're making assumptions about facts not in evidence. I believe, in the instance is you're citing, entrance exams, and qualifications of American applicants are the point in contest. Perhaps you've seen specific data delineating Indian candidates in that regard. I haven't.

For example, in this case, Dr. Muralidaran received all of his premed and Medical school training in India. He received an MBBS degree from Madras Medical College in Chennai in 1999.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:46 pm to
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I know.
Cite it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:46 pm to
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The rarer the procedure, the more it seems like questions about institutional experience and safeguards become relevant too.
100%
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Specifically cites discrimination against Indians seeking STEM degrees
Does it?

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Parents of Indian and Indian American college applicants, take heart. The simple fact of your child’s race will not put them at a disadvantage


Again, the majority, indeed vast majority, of Indian physicians practicing in the United States gained access to our system, not through American undergraduate and medical school pathways, but through Indian medical school pathways. Specifically through a J-1 visa program, often converted to an H1B subsequently.

Meaning that in terms of med school admissions, which is the point of reference, there is not an Indian comparator. The reason there are so many J1 visa slots awarded is, in no small part, because the federal government limits US med school capacity vis-a-vis funding in an idiotic attempt to control medical cost through reducing availability of MDs.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 3:10 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:03 pm to
DEI hires are literally killing us.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Hiring DEI has been popular...just like medically treating minorities over whites is taught in med school.
Have you ever been on patient rounds and the Attending or even Resident asks you questions about the patient? It’s not something can learn on the flight from Bangladeshi.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:20 pm to
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Hiring DEI has been popular...just like medically treating minorities over whites is taught in med school.
Have you ever been on patient rounds and the Attending or even Resident asks you questions about the patient? It’s not something can learn on the flight from Bangladeshi.


Maybe he just intently listened?
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:24 pm to
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the majority, indeed vast majority, of Indian physicians practicing in the United States gained access to our system, not through American undergraduate and medical school pathways, but through Indian medical school pathways. Specifically through a J-1 visa program, often converted to an H1B subsequently.

That wasn’t what you asked me to cite.
Posted by jimmarley
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:24 pm to
I didn't see which valve they replaced - probably aortic or mitral - but valves are designed to facilitate ONE WAY flow of blood, with no back flow.

You do the math.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:49 pm to
You’re right on that
Posted by Rex Feral
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:50 pm to
I had a friend growing up who was middle eastern. His dad was a chemist who held patents for things we use every day. They were loaded. The friend couldn't get into med school in the US so his dad bribed people in Egypt to get him into an Egyptian med school. He'd come back a couple times a year to see family. Around his third year, we were at my place drinking beer and earing Taco Bell when he says he paid someone to take all of his finals. This guy graduates, goes through residency, and is a hospitalist back in town. This shite happens more often than you realize.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:03 pm to
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That wasn’t what you asked me to cite.
I asked you to cite evidence similar to Asian-American undergrad/medschool application bias in the case of Indians. You didn't. Instead you linked a source which explicitly assured Indians are not victims of selection bias.

While admission bias has been evidenced domestically, the Indian J-1 circuit circumvents it entirely. Far from bias against, the system sets up bias for that group.

The point being there are equally, or FAR more, qualified domestic candidates never even given the opportunity because the US medschool process excludes them.

Then we import (often inferior) IMGs to fill the gaps deliberately inherent in our medical residency system.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:06 pm to
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he says he paid someone to take all of his finals. This guy graduates, goes through residency, and is a hospitalist back in town. This shite happens more often than you realize.
Correct. As the recent Indian medschool scandals attest.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 4:34 pm to
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Have you ever been on patient rounds and the Attending or even Resident asks you questions about the patient? It’s not something can learn on the flight from Bangladeshi.
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