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re: Do you think Biden's accelerated decline caught the Dems by surprise?

Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by Doctor B
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:31 pm to
Dragging Biden across the finish line in 2020 gave Dems a false security they could get through one more election.

But he deteriorated to the point they couldn't hide it. They were likely hoping to drug cocktail him/glide through 4 more months.

Now they are in scramble mode and Republicans will no doubt throw them a lifeline somehow.

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35320 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:53 pm to
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Absolutely not. They know, and they lied.


They knew in 2020 too.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23524 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:18 pm to
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Do you think Biden's accelerated decline caught the Dems by surprise?

Yes. If they had concerns, you wouldn't have seen Kamala Harris.

Take Trump and Pence. I know we all loathe him now, but had anything happened to Trump in his first term, nobody doubted Mike Pence would be competent. He lacked charisma, but you didn't think he would be a complete disaster.

In comparison, Harris was put on the ticket to pander, but NOBODY wants her anywhere near the Oval Office. Even Dems don't. People are hesitant to demand Biden be ruled incompetent, because they fear the shitshow that she would bring.

Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2781 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:39 am to
My view is that they never thought the debates would ever happen, so there was no need to argue about the approach or format. Why worry about running Joe out there if they were guaranteed they would never happen.

They thought the lawfare would force Trump to either drop out or provide them a “reason” to refuse the debate.

Once that didn’t happen, they were stuck. They didn’t think about how bad Joe was going to look on the split screen in comparison to Trump or how bad his decline would look if Trump was forced to not be argumentative with the silenced mics.
Posted by 123Geaux
Member since May 2013
210 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:42 am to
They literally came out and said he isn't competent to stand trial. They have KNOWN!
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4429 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:43 am to
If that were the case, Biden wouldn’t have asked for the debate, especially before the convention. This was a litmus test and he failed so now the DNC will push him aside like they have pushed aside so many others in attempt to select a candidate regardless of the will of the people. Same thing happened to Bernie, same thing is happening to RFK right now. If RFK could actually be controlled he would be the obvious choice.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9798 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 12:48 am to
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Do you think Biden's accelerated decline caught the Dems by surprise


Absolutely not.

They knew 4 years ago when they used Covid as an excuse to keep him off the campaign trail.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3872 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:07 am to
For the brain dead Dem minions getting their news from the networks, CNN, and MSNBC, yes.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20990 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:15 am to
In their view, Biden's decline is an asset, not a liability. They can offload him anytime they desire. What they cannot do is allow Trump to become POTUS again. Biden's condition is just a means to that end now.

I'm not sure who "they" are other than I suspect Obama is a member.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12400 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:51 am to
They honestly believed he was going to pull a debate performance out of his arse like he did in2020, but that was 4 years ago. There are so many instances of him bumbling at the mouth it’s still a massive blunder to have thought he should have debated DJT. I’m glad he did but his handlers knew what was going to happen
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:30 am to
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For the brain dead Dem minions getting their news from the networks, CNN, and MSNBC, yes


History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes. 100 years later and not much has changed:

quote:

Toward the end of this tour, Wilson suffered his famous cerebral thrombosis that left him a mental and physical cripple. His wife, Edith, browbeat Wilson's physician, Admiral Cary Grayson, into lying about the president's condition.

The First Lady claimed the country's top neurologist said it was vital to keep Wilson on the job to stimulate a swift, presumably full recovery. It took sixty years for the doctor's papers to surface. He actually said the president's recovery would never be more than minimal.

At the height of the furor over Wilson's ability to function as president, Edith sponsored a newspaper fraud that makes the recent uproar at the New York Times seem trivial. She invited the New York World's White House reporter, Louis Siebold, to be the first newsman to interview the president after his supposed recovery.

Edith persuaded Siebold to lie about almost every aspect of the president's condition, from his sixty second attention span to his illegible signature, which Siebold praised as" copperplate." Siebold talked about running a footrace with the invalid, whose entire left side remained paralyzed. For a final ironic touch, the newsman won a Pulitzer prize for this travesty of objective journalism.



Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10401 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:26 am to
Absolutely not, especially those within the White House.

We'd like to think we are more advanced than our Medieval predecessors, but this is no different than a dying King. Those at court know that their place in the social hierarchy is directly tied to the King. In the absence of the King, they are back to begging for a seat at the table in the power struggle that will follow his demise.

Biden is for political purposes a "dead man walking". Those around him are simply trying to keep him upright as long as possible, or at least until they secure their position with whomever the new King will be.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
9297 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:26 am to
It didn't catch them by surprise. It's been obvious since 2020 that Joe has the intellectual capacity of a turnip.
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