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re: Do you like Marjorie Taylor Greene's idea of separating the U.S. into Red vs Blue?

Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:19 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:19 am to
The basis for this wet dream, which exists on the left and the right, is basic misunderstanding of who is red and who is blue in the US. Many on the left are of the opinion that all people who are red are ignorant, hateful rednecks, and the fact is many are just that. Folks on the right contend that all blue folks are dead beat parasites and the fact of the matter is many are just that. The problem is that there are also very intelligent and thoughtful people on both sides who are making the nation work better than any nation ever has. The US has always been diverse and while many on both sides view diversity as a plague it is, in fact, the strength of the nation as it is in any organism. The ideologues on both sides are a minority but they get a lot of attention because it creates controversy and controversy sells ad space. If every person in the top 33% of red and blue ideas were in one nation and the 33% of us in the middle were in a third nation the middle would be obliged to facilitate the left and the right because neither could function on its own. The sooner we realize that fact and learn to get along the better because people are not going to walk in lockstep with one another at any time unless forced to do so and that has been tried many times and it never ended well....
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:37 am to
Democrats have elected officials who overwhelmingly support reparations, abortion, open borders, cashless bail, war in Ukraine, reassignment surgery for kids, and a host of other immoral unsustainable unAmerican horseshite.

What you said sounds good on paper and in your head, it simply doesn’t play out in reality. If it did, the current situation today would not be.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:49 am to
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Not really because are doomed to fail that way. But I just can't see things getting better and this nation coming together again, we are too divided.


I think our division is over blown. I am certain that the fringes left and right are as divided as they ever have been but the majority of us are somewhere in between and have far more in common with one another than we don't. The danger lies in the narrowing of the middle allowing crony capitalism to flourish more than it ever has and centralizing wealth and power to a select few....that is as bad in this country as it has ever been and if we don't come together to fight that common foe we may well be doomed.

50 years ago the average household income was equivalent to $84,000. It is $79,000 today. On average people worked fewer hours in 1972 and had more purchasing power. This is mostly due to the huge increase in the number of women working full time in 2022 compared to 1972, an increase of about 50%. Americans are working more hours and earning less and the very basis of the social fabric of this country, the family, has been severely damaged. More people who work full time depend on subsidies today than they did in 1972 and the ensuing damage done to all aspects of life in the US is severely misunderstood, on purpose, because it allows a small % of Americans to have more wealth and power than they would have otherwise. The problem ain't individuals on public assistance the problem is corporate America's reliance on public assistance to bolster their bottom line. Republicans have gone all in on policies which perpetuate this problem for at least 42 years and Democrats have gone along with it in order to have more and more individuals beholden to the Government for their existence. The divide isn't between left and right, black and white, gay or straight, the divide is the same as it has always been...the gap between the haves and the have nots....and our insistence otherwise facilitates that problem.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
13162 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:53 am to
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We are currently divorcing, but it's a U-Haul divorce. 700k people moved out of California last year.


The problem is those aren't all conservatives.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
11407 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:56 am to
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False. Since The Great Migration began in 2020 the 3 highest migration states (TX, FL, TN) have either maintained their prior ratios (TX) or become more red (TN, FL). I’m tired posting all the proof of this I’ve done it several times on here.

Anyone stating otherwise is clueless.

Nov 2022 article Red States Get Redder

Found this in. under 10 seconds


Your facts are indisputable but are they sustainable? Certainly not in Florida where older Americans, a conservative demographic by any measure, are a big piece of the influx of new residents. Their time is limited by biology. They won't be voting 20 years from now. Unless they are democrats who gladly accept ballots from the grave
Posted by IkeandTina
Member since Nov 2019
407 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 6:59 am to
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ChampsI LIKE IT.. red states will then invade the lazy asses and deranged in the blue states and start over with red state rule


I’m a democrat who fervently believes in my second amendment rights, so they can fafo if they want. Unfortunately, I live in the south. But we are rethinking that daily because it’s clear that America is too full of hate to be united.

I think that throwing this out without potential solutions is reckless and irresponsible. What about social security? Military bases? Taxes? Etc. What’s the plan???
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:02 am to
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What is Georgia? A blue state or red state? Is MTG going to live in blue America?

Georgia is marxist-afflicted state
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:09 am to
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The ideologues on both sides are a minority but they get a lot of attention because it creates controversy and controversy sells ad space.


shes in the news again.

her story is "Divided".
she is the embodiment of Problem.

her divisive position fails to notice that in the north millions of people register as independent.
senators from maine and vermont are independent.
you cant win much in the north without IND voters.

Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
79399 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:11 am to
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Do you like Marjorie Taylor Greene's idea of separating the U.S. into Red vs Blue?

Yes

Irreconcilable differences
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:20 am to
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I think that throwing this out without potential solutions is reckless and irresponsible.

shes a demagogue.
she previously claimed jews used space lasers to start the northern California forest fire at the request of the gov newsome, right before the recall election.


Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:23 am to
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The danger lies in the narrowing of the middle allowing crony capitalism to flourish more than it ever has and centralizing wealth and power to a select few....that is as bad in this country as it has ever been and if we don't come together to fight that common foe we may well be doomed.


gop is all about crony capitalism.
if trump read your post he would say COMMIE.

Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19709 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:24 am to
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Do you like Marjorie Taylor Greene's idea of separating the U.S. into Red vs Blue?


Red Blue
Black White
Whatever.....I support it.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34984 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:25 am to
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No. It is total nonsense and practically impossible.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25541 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:28 am to
It’s all about states rights. Bring the fed back down to national defense and a few other small items and let the states decide the rest. It will be balkanization but still a union of states much like the EU. The states were always intended to be self governing
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4183 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 7:29 am to
Is this how North Korea and South Korea started? Because that's how this would eventually turn out. What family would the blue states choose to be their dictators? Soros?
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
14710 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:31 am to
No. We fought a civil war to prevent this. Lincoln made the right decision.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7190 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:38 am to
NewsFlash:

We have been separated for a few decades now.

And now the fed govt. has openly declared war on us.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7393 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 8:40 am to
We don't need a divorce, but we do need to start making examples of socialists who are trying to fundamentally change our Constitution.
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