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re: Do you know what ASYCUDA is? If not please shut up about "who pays the tariffs".
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:31 am to trinidadtiger
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:31 am to trinidadtiger
I'll posit it's really, really dumb for any of us to universally declare "who is paying the tariffs"
It's fine to argue against aggregate consensus if it's incomplete or wrong "immediately passed to consumer!" but pretending the opposite is true is equally dumb.
It's fine to argue against aggregate consensus if it's incomplete or wrong "immediately passed to consumer!" but pretending the opposite is true is equally dumb.
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Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:33 am to trinidadtiger
quote:Are you serious? All that is is the Computerized collection system. Has nothing to do with what happens with ultimate pricing. So "The wholesaler "wrote the check" but the foreign manufacturer paid for it. " - OK, true. You can know that w/o knowing that acronym. But that's not the end of the story.
If you had to google it, you have no idea what you are talking about when discussing tariffs.
quote:True, the companies *can* decide to eat some or all of the hit to their margin. It's going to be on a case by case basis, I don't think you can use a broad brush here. If US companies can't make a profit even with an added 15% price (and the tariff applies to other foreign competitors as well), the importer won't be motivated to eat the cost - he'll raise his price 15%.
Its also why Trump is hitting that sweet spot of around 15%, at that margin, companies can eat it to protect their largest market....the US.
quote:Agreed. I'd like to see these phased in, once we get a commitment and action from the importer to build US factories.
The targeted larger tariffs: steel, aluminum, copper, drugs, chips he is forcing them to be manufactured locally.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:34 am to trinidadtiger
OMG do you want rocker the cuckler on suicide watch now?
how dare you!
how dare you!
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:37 am to trinidadtiger
Every penny of a business' costs is paid for by consumers. No walls of text will change that obvious fact.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:40 am to roadGator
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If consumers are willing to pay the price as you say then there is no incentive for countries to negotiate the tariffs.
True but it opens the door to manufacturing that product in the USA at a lower price because they would not have to pay the tariff.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:42 am to trinidadtiger
I got a real bad case of Asycuda. During spring break. Damn nearly cost me a month of recovery
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:50 am to trinidadtiger
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Do you know what ASYCUDA is? If not please shut up about "who pays the tariffs".
I know what STTDB means.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 8:53 am to trinidadtiger
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For the last time. When Trump announced the tariffs on Japanese cars, the manufacturers immediately reduced the wholesale price for cars coming to the US. This enabled the wholesaler to pay the tariff and still maintain their margin AND the original consumer price.
The wholesaler "wrote the check" but the foreign manufacturer paid for it.
Yall really like to cling to this one example and pretend that this is what's happening across the board. You really believe that every exporter in every country is "eating" the cost?
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
And maybe that's been the point all along. Slap on a tariff, US Treasury gets paid. Wholesalers reduce the base price, but because of tariffs the prices are the same. Consumer wins short term. Wholesaler loses , but loses a little short term. Treasury wins big short term until prices are forced up at the wholesale end.
No matter what in this scenario, domestic manufacturing loses until the price of the import hits a higher level than now.....so ..... X + 20% with X being the current discounted base with the current tariff factored in
No matter what in this scenario, domestic manufacturing loses until the price of the import hits a higher level than now.....so ..... X + 20% with X being the current discounted base with the current tariff factored in
Posted on 8/8/25 at 9:48 am to Jyrdis
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You should go read any number of studies that have shown the negative impacts of tariffs including what they do to the price of goods.
And yet every other country in the world had no problems with it.
Amazing.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:00 am to ChineseBandit58
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I don't give a shite if nobody ever gets another cheap yo-yo from China
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:02 am to trinidadtiger
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Do you know what ASYCUDA is? If not please shut up about "who pays the tariffs".
Baloney! You don’t have to know what mitochondria are to know that plants need water.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:07 am to Flats
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The cult has turned "tariff" into a magic talisman.
Well, you guys said tariffs would tank the economy and that the consumer would pay the increased cost. That didn't happen. The economy is doing well, manufacturers have eaten the tariffs, investments are coming in, foreign countries are paying to access our market, and American companies have foreign markets opened to them.
If tariffs aren't a magical talisman, then that just means that Trump is a natural wizard. All the "experts" you quote were wrong. That's what happens when you use academia to challenge someone with real world experience. Have you never seen Back to School?
Instead of being happy that your doom predictions failed, you just get upset because MAGA was right. This country is lost because too many people would rather be right than see Trump be successful.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 10:17 am to trinidadtiger
Most of the detractors on this board and the MB are just repeating globalist talking points.
No original thought.
Case in point. Here is a guy that spreads propaganda.
No original thought.
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Seldom Seen
Case in point. Here is a guy that spreads propaganda.
This post was edited on 8/8/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/8/25 at 11:29 am to dgnx6
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Seldom Seen
Case in point. Here is a guy that spreads propaganda.
poor guy he really fell off
went from seldom seen to seldom cucked to always cucked so sad
Posted on 8/8/25 at 1:59 pm to trinidadtiger
TDS is real, bro.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:01 pm to trinidadtiger
Problem is our vehicles can't sell in Japan. Not because of restrictions but because of physics.
The best selling F150 is too big for Japanese streets. SO are other vehicles. That creates a problem.
The best selling F150 is too big for Japanese streets. SO are other vehicles. That creates a problem.
Posted on 8/8/25 at 2:23 pm to Seldom Seen
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You really believe that every exporter in every country is "eating" the cost?
Everything is going to be ok.
You pay whatever cost you choose to pay for whatever product and the rest of us will do the same. Stop worrying about what other folks do......
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