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re: Do The Liberals Not Understand How Oppressed They Are Going To Be By Their Communist…

Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:54 am to
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No. They're much worse off. Their elderly problem is bad and getting worse daily.

so they have MORE elderly now than prior to the historic pandemic that killed millions of elderly people? LOL, ok.
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150 million lower than had been reported
right. with an untenable and growing proportion of elderly net-drains on the welfare state prior to covid. Prior to the pandemic, The WEF estimated that their elderly population would overtake the working age population within 50 years.


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You also seem like one who would care about debt. Well, their debt has exploded - past the levels of the US.
pretty meaningless in terms of general economic health... at least thats what dems keep telling us.

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Also, not sure where you're getting the trade war talking point. Current admin basically picked up where Trump left off

he "continued" some of them by putting them up for review beyond their expiration. In return, the Chinese have failed to meet their US import commitments by nearly half, implying that they have established supply chains elsewhere. and once again, Biden dithers.



but what are you really implying? that this administration has brought china to heel? lol. manufacturers are actively moving capital back to China.
we can both cherry pick metrics and try to make some subjective points. generally speaking China is in decline, has been for some time, and continues to spiral. at some point on the future, they could hit another watershed moment where they teeter on immediate collapse, but that's not where the are now. they are landing a damaged plane, but its no longer a crash landing.

in 2019, we imposed heavy tariffs, shrunk their manufacturing output, and leveraged the IMF to take away their ability to manipulate currency as the general health of their economy lagged. Their GDP growth tanked historically just as covid was released. covid literally saved their manufacturing pmi, largly through their dominance in the ppe space. this isnt debatable. even rags like the NYT documented this.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4222 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:58 am to
No no they don’t
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33436 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:35 pm to
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so they have MORE elderly now than prior to the historic pandemic that killed millions of elderly people? LOL, ok.
Cute. But obviously, you understand the actual problem is old people getting old. And that population is now 4 years older. By 2035 or so, they will be almost upside down in turns of young workers to feed the system.

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but what are you really implying? that this administration has brought china to heel?
No. I'm saying China is very badly wounded, regardless of who is in office here.

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generally speaking China is in decline, has been for some time, and continues to spiral. at some point on the future, they could hit another watershed moment where they teeter on immediate collapse, but that's not where the are now. they are landing a damaged plane, but its no longer a crash landing.

I agree with the former, not the latter.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95747 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:36 pm to
Nope.

They think they will be the runs running the camps, not the first ones in the ovens.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24755 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 3:00 pm to
No, because they are only implementing the good parts of Communism.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:03 pm to
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But obviously, you understand the actual problem is old people getting old. And that population is now 4 years older. By 2035 or so, they will be almost upside down in turns of young workers to feed the system.


So you figure china didn’t see an immediate and profound benefit from deleting millions of old people with their super virus just because some more people got a little older over the last 4 years? And they are worse off now in terms of social welfare and healthcare costs relative to the elderly?

Jesus
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:21 pm to
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Communist
I'm curious. If our overlords are interested in China because their goal is to promote communism, then how do we square that with the complete lack of support for someone like Bernie Sanders by the establishment?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33436 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:50 pm to
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So you figure china didn’t see an immediate and profound benefit from deleting millions of old people with their super virus

Wait, are you under the impression that 150 million died of covid?!!?

Jesus

The missing tens of millions almost ALL came from sub-35 cohorts. That is to say - the young workers they would like to rely on to help ease at least somewhat the demographic time bomb. This was absolutely horrific news from their standpoint - and you acting like it isn't relevant seems like deliberate obtuseness.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6435 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:57 pm to
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The first group to die ... are the “other” revolutionaries.


FIFY, courtesy of Robespierre.
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7288 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:01 pm to
Wait till they find out they hate gays
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45138 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:05 pm to
Imagine what the Chinese will do to minorities who use race as a excuse for everything. Woke will disappear overnight.
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7288 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:08 pm to
Nike shoes will finally be made in America, by slave labor
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:33 pm to
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Wait, are you under the impression that 150 million died of covid?


What the frick?

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The missing tens of millions almost ALL came from sub-35 cohorts.


What in the actual frick?
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33436 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:00 pm to
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Wait, are you under the impression that 150 million died of covid?



What the frick?
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I am referring to the revelation in late 2021 that that the Chinese census is 70 - 130 million off of what they've been saying...with almost all of the delta coming from the sub 35 cohort. This is HUGE news for the world and drastically terrible for them.

And it has NOTHING to do with covid - again, as you seem to be under the impression I was referring to a million covid deaths or whatever.

LINK

And as a kicker, it was leaked last year that they've been lying about recent birth rates as well.

LINK



Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:43 pm to
Ah, so you were changing the subject by answering my points on Covid with responses unrelated to Covid.

Makes perfect sense
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7843 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:44 pm to
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Do The Liberals Not Understand How Oppressed They Are Going To Be By Their Communist…

…Chinese overlords once the US crumbles?


They all expect to cash in their virtue points to be in the Elite class of Communism, and have no idea that they, too, are destined for the fields and the mines with the rest of us.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3012 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:56 pm to
Damn smart to know that. They will be the first to die. I wonder if they ever read history. Evidently not.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33436 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:47 pm to
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Ah, so you were changing the subject by answering my points on Covid with responses unrelated to Covid.

Makes perfect sense
wut YOU are avoiding MY point. When I said their census is disastrously down 100 million + you muttered something about old people dying. When I explain to you the context and provide support, you then accuse me of avoidance?

Come on, dude.
Posted by ReeseBobby
Comanche TX
Member since Oct 2021
186 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:29 am to
Many posters on this board want the USA to break up or “divorce”. Imagine how much easier it will be for China to take over after we are divided.
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