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Do socialists think that billionaires stole their money?

Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:13 am
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:13 am
That because these guys were successful in making lots of money that this prevents them from making money?

Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?

I don't get it.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10665 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:15 am to
They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more. A lot more. It's that simple. Labor is the source of wealth. We have no problem with people having nice things. But a lot more people should profit from their labor.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29595 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:16 am to
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Do socialists think...


Lemme just stop you right here.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:16 am to
That human productivity is about creating value and not a predetermined zero-sum pie is something that is lost on many folks.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 am to
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Labor is the source of wealth


LTV lmao
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17473 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 am to
If the workers held out and were patient they might have earned more? 2 way street, Ralph. Greed and selfishness at work both ways.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53758 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 am to
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I don't get it.



essentially socialist believe poor people can't earn more because the Billionaires are keeping to themselves
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26608 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:20 am to
Yes. They made it on the backs of poor people. Apparently poor people somehow had BILLIONS of dollars stolen from them. Those rich people somehow figured out where the poors were hiding it, then took it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:20 am to
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Labor is the source of wealth.

Idiot
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5247 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:22 am to
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Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?


Depends what you mean by this. It would hold true with real estate, for example.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:23 am to
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more.


What's the logic here?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14808 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:28 am to
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more. A lot more. It's that simple. Labor is the source of wealth. We have no problem with people having nice things. But a lot more people should profit from their labor.






So I'm guessing you don't believe in supply and demand?

Do you think a business should pay more wages than supply and demand says?

That's not a really good business model. Pay employees what they are worth. Low education and low skilled workers are a dime a dozen. But you think they should be payed more than their market value why?

Someone won't pay more than the market value for the thing that worker is making.

You want to be paid more? Make yourself worth more. Get an education. Gain skills. Be great at what you do.

Want to be paid less? Be undependable. Be unskilled. Don't care about your work. Make yourself easily replaceable.
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
13473 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:28 am to
They think the economy is a zero sum game and that any wealth you have directly resulted in a loss from someone else. Pure idiocy.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to
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Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?


Yep
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9163 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to
Most socialists are losers.

They see other people "have" and they themselves do not.

So, if others gets taxed 50% (for example) it's not going to personally affect them. These people have two nickels to rub together. They know the government isn't going to take away 1/2 of their PlayStation in their parent's basement. "Socialists" generally feel like they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by fricking over anyone with more money then themselves.

Remember, their mindset is: "It's greedy for you to want to keep your own money, but it's not greedy for me to want to take your money."

They are self-serving loser scum.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
29966 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to
i Was guilty of thinking this way, until my 6th grade social studies teacher went on a rant about how two farmers make more money if working smarter, together, than separately. Jealousy caused the downfall.


I think it went like this:


Farmer joe grows corn and is really good at it.
FarmerTom raises cattle and is really good at it.


They used to trade cattle for corn and were able to concentrate on their specialty and got wealthy doing it. But farmer Tom made more money out of the deal, yet farmer joe made more than he could possibly Make by growing solely, corn.

Tom had a King Ranch f150 and Joe had a Ford ranger. Joe got jealous and stopped the deal and both suffered. Production went way down since both had to grow something they weren’t adept with.

Tom then had to buy joes ranger while he downgraded to a Ford Fiesta.

Then joe realized that he didn’t mind that Tom had a better truck because he wanted his ranger back. They worked out a deal and got the production back on track.


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134817 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to
quote:

They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more. A lot more. It's that simple. Labor is the source of wealth. We have no problem with people having nice things. But a lot more people should profit from their labor.

Do you support politicians making $200k/year + benefits for life?
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:31 am to
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This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
26985 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:32 am to
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more.


How much of their own money did the "people" risk?

quote:

Labor is the source of wealth.


LMAO, ok comrade.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55437 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:33 am to
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Do you think small businesses get equal treatment?


Now this is an argument I'm more than happy to entertain. Preferential treatment to large businesses due to regulatory capture and bribery is an entirely different subject than exploitation of labor surplus.
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