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Do socialists think that billionaires stole their money?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:13 am
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:13 am
That because these guys were successful in making lots of money that this prevents them from making money?
Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?
I don't get it.
Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?
I don't get it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:15 am to TigerBait1971
They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more. A lot more. It's that simple. Labor is the source of wealth. We have no problem with people having nice things. But a lot more people should profit from their labor.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:16 am to TigerBait1971
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Do socialists think...
Lemme just stop you right here.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:16 am to TigerBait1971
That human productivity is about creating value and not a predetermined zero-sum pie is something that is lost on many folks.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Labor is the source of wealth
LTV lmao
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 am to Ralph_Wiggum
If the workers held out and were patient they might have earned more? 2 way street, Ralph. Greed and selfishness at work both ways.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:18 am to TigerBait1971
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I don't get it.
essentially socialist believe poor people can't earn more because the Billionaires are keeping to themselves
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:20 am to TigerBait1971
Yes. They made it on the backs of poor people. Apparently poor people somehow had BILLIONS of dollars stolen from them. Those rich people somehow figured out where the poors were hiding it, then took it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:20 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Labor is the source of wealth.
Idiot
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:22 am to TigerBait1971
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Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?
Depends what you mean by this. It would hold true with real estate, for example.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:23 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more.
What's the logic here?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:28 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more. A lot more. It's that simple. Labor is the source of wealth. We have no problem with people having nice things. But a lot more people should profit from their labor.
So I'm guessing you don't believe in supply and demand?
Do you think a business should pay more wages than supply and demand says?
That's not a really good business model. Pay employees what they are worth. Low education and low skilled workers are a dime a dozen. But you think they should be payed more than their market value why?
Someone won't pay more than the market value for the thing that worker is making.
You want to be paid more? Make yourself worth more. Get an education. Gain skills. Be great at what you do.
Want to be paid less? Be undependable. Be unskilled. Don't care about your work. Make yourself easily replaceable.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:28 am to TigerBait1971
They think the economy is a zero sum game and that any wealth you have directly resulted in a loss from someone else. Pure idiocy.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to TigerBait1971
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Do they think there is only a certain amount of money available in our economy and the billionaires grabbed it all up?
Yep
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to TigerBait1971
Most socialists are losers.
They see other people "have" and they themselves do not.
So, if others gets taxed 50% (for example) it's not going to personally affect them. These people have two nickels to rub together. They know the government isn't going to take away 1/2 of their PlayStation in their parent's basement. "Socialists" generally feel like they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by fricking over anyone with more money then themselves.
Remember, their mindset is: "It's greedy for you to want to keep your own money, but it's not greedy for me to want to take your money."
They are self-serving loser scum.
They see other people "have" and they themselves do not.
So, if others gets taxed 50% (for example) it's not going to personally affect them. These people have two nickels to rub together. They know the government isn't going to take away 1/2 of their PlayStation in their parent's basement. "Socialists" generally feel like they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by fricking over anyone with more money then themselves.
Remember, their mindset is: "It's greedy for you to want to keep your own money, but it's not greedy for me to want to take your money."
They are self-serving loser scum.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to TigerBait1971
i Was guilty of thinking this way, until my 6th grade social studies teacher went on a rant about how two farmers make more money if working smarter, together, than separately. Jealousy caused the downfall.
I think it went like this:
Farmer joe grows corn and is really good at it.
FarmerTom raises cattle and is really good at it.
They used to trade cattle for corn and were able to concentrate on their specialty and got wealthy doing it. But farmer Tom made more money out of the deal, yet farmer joe made more than he could possibly Make by growing solely, corn.
Tom had a King Ranch f150 and Joe had a Ford ranger. Joe got jealous and stopped the deal and both suffered. Production went way down since both had to grow something they weren’t adept with.
Tom then had to buy joes ranger while he downgraded to a Ford Fiesta.
Then joe realized that he didn’t mind that Tom had a better truck because he wanted his ranger back. They worked out a deal and got the production back on track.
I think it went like this:
Farmer joe grows corn and is really good at it.
FarmerTom raises cattle and is really good at it.
They used to trade cattle for corn and were able to concentrate on their specialty and got wealthy doing it. But farmer Tom made more money out of the deal, yet farmer joe made more than he could possibly Make by growing solely, corn.
Tom had a King Ranch f150 and Joe had a Ford ranger. Joe got jealous and stopped the deal and both suffered. Production went way down since both had to grow something they weren’t adept with.
Tom then had to buy joes ranger while he downgraded to a Ford Fiesta.
Then joe realized that he didn’t mind that Tom had a better truck because he wanted his ranger back. They worked out a deal and got the production back on track.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:29 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more. A lot more. It's that simple. Labor is the source of wealth. We have no problem with people having nice things. But a lot more people should profit from their labor.
Do you support politicians making $200k/year + benefits for life?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:31 am to TigerBait1971
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This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:32 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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They should have paid the people whose labor they used to get rich more.
How much of their own money did the "people" risk?
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Labor is the source of wealth.
LMAO, ok comrade.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 7:33 am to cahoots
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Do you think small businesses get equal treatment?
Now this is an argument I'm more than happy to entertain. Preferential treatment to large businesses due to regulatory capture and bribery is an entirely different subject than exploitation of labor surplus.
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