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re: Do gay people lie more frequently than straight people?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:25 pm to ManBearTiger
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:25 pm to ManBearTiger
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These people very rarely self-identify as "gay."
this is the most conversation I've had about homosexuality in...…..maybe forever.
I'm going home and chasing the wife around for a bit
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:36 pm to ManBearTiger
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A genius who thinks character traits such as laziness, being a liar, or having an inclination to steal ... are all the result of genetic markers
To a degree. Predisposition plus environmental triggers.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:42 pm to ManBearTiger
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You're completely ignorant on the subject obviously. I suppose you think the stork just decided to make some babies gay? Because if you insist on denying it is a learned behavior, you might as well pick the stork theory.
Go watch the series “Intervention” and see how many addicts were sexually abused as children. Many are very confused sexually by the trauma of the sexual abuse. Not claiming it flat out turns children from being heterosexual to homosexual but it’s definitely a factor in some individuals.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:45 pm to Bass Tiger
I completely agree that kind of childhood trauma affects people in such a way
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:49 pm to ManBearTiger
That’s called an environmental trigger
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:51 pm to Bass Tiger
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Go watch the series “Intervention” and see how many addicts were sexually abused as children.
Yeah, absolutely. Child abuse is a major indicator of problems later in life, especially substances but not only that also inability to form meaningful relationships and trouble with jobs.
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Not claiming it flat out turns children from being heterosexual to homosexual but it’s definitely a factor in some individuals.
If a child is abused sexually as a child, they are likely going to have issues with sex as they grow older, in some cases this will result in homosexuality where maybe they wouldn't have been gay without the abuse.
But don't make a converse error. Just b.c you are gay, doesn't mean you were sexually abused.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 2/20/19 at 4:51 pm to KeyserSoze999
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Do gay people lie more frequently than straight people?
BITCH PUHLEASE!
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:01 pm to Antonio Moss
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That’s called an environmental trigger
It's called an environmental trigger if you're a Native American with a demonstrable genetic predisposition to alcoholism.
It's called a "learned behavior" when it's a 20's-something person who, in response to the confusing sexual environment they came up in, might have sex with a woman but will more readily engage in sex a man (or vice versa). There has never been any evidence put forward of a "gay" gene.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:06 pm to ManBearTiger
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I'm saying that there is a historical abundance of evidence linking childhood sexual trauma and adult homosexuality- or for that matter, sexual deviance in general- whereas there is absolutely zero evidence indicating homosexuality is a behavior pattern that emerges as a result of genetic predisposition.
How many times have you heard people defend homosexuality by asking this question, “do you think anyone would choose to be homosexual knowing they’re going to be persecuted?” Let’s ask some more questions, do you think anyone would chose to be pedophile? A serial killer? A sadist? A psychopath? Most people who display deviant behavior made a choice..... or they can’t be held responsible because they were born that way.
You can separate these examples and say that homosexuality is not deviant behavior, it’s just sexual preference, that’s fine, our society/government has decided homosexuality is not abnormal behavior. But I’m telling ya this is not where this slippery slope ends. In the next few decades, if you’re still alive, what would shock you today will be acceptable in the future.
I’m 60 years old, I can assure you I’m shocked at the level of deviancy that’s treated as normal behavior today when compared to the 60’s-70’s.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:07 pm to ManBearTiger
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It's called an environmental trigger if you're a Native American with a demonstrable genetic predisposition to alcoholism.
Nope. That’s a disposition.
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It's called a "learned behavior" when it's a 20's-something person who, in response to the confusing sexual environment they came up in, might have sex with a woman but will more readily engage in sex a man (or vice versa). There has never been any evidence put forward of a "gay" gene.
So homosexuality in nature is a learned behavior?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:10 pm to brian_wilson
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But don't make a converse error. Just b.c you are gay, doesn't mean you were sexually abused.
I agree, but my point stands, some of the sexual confusion in teenagers and young adults is from sexual abuse.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:10 pm to ManBearTiger
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Then you disagree with the sum total of every bit of data collected on the topic of homosexuality in the last century. SCIENCE! IT JUST HAPPENS!
Cite your sources.
And I call bullshite on your assertion that all the gays you know have admitted to being abused as a child, specifically a male.
I'm gay and I promise I know more gays than you, and I don't know any who have been sexually abused. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it has no effect on sexuality -- at least none grounded in solid science that I'm aware of. Feel free to cite your sources on that, too.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:18 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:=learned behavior
environmental trigger
Different circumstances cause a reaction, why?because of genetics?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 5:26 pm to brian_wilson
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If a child is abused sexually as a child, they are likely going to have issues with sex as they grow older, in some cases this will result in homosexuality where maybe they wouldn't have been gay without the abuse.
This is demonstrably false, and I'm not aware of any scientific research that confirms or supports this claim.
PLEASE cite your sources for your claim.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:55 pm to ibldprplgld
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ibldprplgld
I see no one has picked up the gauntlet you threw down.
Predictably.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:56 pm to KeyserSoze999
No
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:02 pm to ibldprplgld
I mean pretty sure it's common knowledge, one quick top result from a google search:
LINK
Because it's a likely progressive loon organization they try to explain it away, but the correlation is present.
LINK
Because it's a likely progressive loon organization they try to explain it away, but the correlation is present.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:34 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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gauntlet
Lulz
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:10 pm to Turbeauxdog
It's a subject that hits them too personally to look at objectively. Thus the insistence on some cosmic sense of fate deciding who's gay
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:19 pm to Turbeauxdog
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I mean pretty sure it's common knowledge, one quick top result from a google search:
When there is no clear consensus, which there isn't, then it is by definition not common knowledge.
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Because it's a likely progressive loon organization they try to explain it away, but the correlation is present.
And even in basic research methodology courses one of the basic and fundamental principles of statistics that is taught over and over again is that correlation does not equal causation.
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