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re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?
So, what does people's "thoughts" have to do with the real and/or imagined bio/chemical reactions to vaccines? Unless you believe that people's thoughts can affect said processes.
Geez. 357 is a serious DV.
Besides, most Bible Thumpers believe that 2/3 of Humanity will be offed by End Times scenarios of war, pestilence and bad water. Believing that, will such affect said scenario? Over my head.
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
I know what he's suggesting, I guess. Although, I'm not sure I agree there's anywhere that health bureaucrats are really divorced from the "political." I was more just not sure who he might have been referencing and what was meant by "did better."
There doesn't seem to be a lot of correlation necessarily to what anyone here did or didn't do and actual positive outcomes as best I can tell.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of correlation necessarily to what anyone here did or didn't do and actual positive outcomes as best I can tell.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:44 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I was more just not sure who he might have been referencing and what was meant by "did better."
There doesn't seem to be a lot of correlation necessarily to what anyone here did or didn't do and actual positive outcomes as best I can tell.
I think extreme examples (especially islands) have had "better" results if we look just at covid rates and pathologies.
But they have likely incurred an extreme cost to accomplish that. I don't see how you can shut down large portions of your country and expect economic output to maintain.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I think extreme examples (especially islands) have had "better" results if we look just at covid rates and pathologies.
But they have likely incurred an extreme cost to accomplish that. I don't see how you can shut down large portions of your country and expect economic output to maintain.
I agree. I'm not sure how you can suggest that those weren't "political" choices either.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:47 pm to RCDfan1950
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Besides, most Bible Thumpers believe that 2/3 of Humanity will be offed by End Times scenarios of war, pestilence and bad water. Believing that, will such affect said scenario? Over my head.
exactly 
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:49 pm to Y.A. Tittle
You can't divorce a national response entirely from politics. Of course.
What more successful countries didn't do was have their unpopular president call it a hoax, swear it was about to be gone, etc. Other countries did try that, but likewise their response was shite (see Brazil).
What more successful countries didn't do was have their unpopular president call it a hoax, swear it was about to be gone, etc. Other countries did try that, but likewise their response was shite (see Brazil).
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:51 pm to AussieRock
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Literally this whole thread is based on something that exists only in SFPs head.
He read it elsewhere. Its not his original idea. He's just doing what he thinks is popular. He changes his political opinions based on who influences him.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:53 pm to TigerDoc
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unpopular president c
What about an even more unpopular president that said he had a plan to stop it?
Did we have one of those?
Many liberals said they were not going to take a trump vaccine. Now they are crying about people not taking a trump vaccine.
Clown world
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Have you thought about the second-level effects of what you're cheerleading?
Choices have consequences. You die, you die.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:54 pm to roadGator
Politicized public health is indeed shite, baw.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:56 pm to TigerDoc
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What more successful countries didn't do was have their unpopular president call it a hoax, swear it was about to be gone, etc. Other countries did try that, but likewise their response was shite (see Brazil).
Who are the similarly situated countries to Brazil (and I guess you are saying the US) who were "more successful" because their unpopular presidents didn't call it a hoax, or swear it was about to be gone?
How many people died because of those statements, you think?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:57 pm to TigerDoc
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Go look up Australia's numbers, baw.
Pretty damn low. That being said, I don't want to live somewhere that is doing to its citizens what Australia is doing, and I don't think you can say they are going to come out of this the same economically as everyone else. I guess we'll see.
Who is else doing a better job? Nordic countries? Japan and South Korea?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:00 pm to TigerDoc
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Go look up Australia's numbers, baw.
You’d be willing to give up that much freedom?
I know the answer.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:06 pm to TigerDoc
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What more successful countries didn't do was have their unpopular president call it a hoax, swear it was about to be gone, etc. O
What year is it?
This talking point died when the world collectively realized Covid wasn't going away by flu season 2020/2021
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:08 pm to jchamil
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Who is else doing a better job? Nordic countries? Japan and South Korea?
Who else is doing a better job *that isn't an island, or effectively an island (SK)?
Western Europe isn't really doing that much better than we are. They have to keep shutting down, too.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What year is it?
This talking point died when the world collectively realized Covid wasn't going away by flu season 2020/2021
I guess the irony of bringing that up in a thread based on what you based it upon is lost on him.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:11 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Yeah that argument only worked when we thought we could just shut it down and it would go away. That was 18 months ago, give or take
And WE aren't the reason why Omicron and Delta and other variants keep mutating. The Developing World will ensure that Covid doesn't die anytime soon.
And WE aren't the reason why Omicron and Delta and other variants keep mutating. The Developing World will ensure that Covid doesn't die anytime soon.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He's saying unelected bureaucrats are non-political actors
Then he's an idiot. Some of them aren't, some of them clearly are.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
That was just the beginning. Look at the hate-object that's been made of Fauci by the populists during both administrations.
Medical populism (treating pandemic leaders as just another "elite" to demonize) is great grist for populist parties, but it sucks for public health.
Medical populism (treating pandemic leaders as just another "elite" to demonize) is great grist for populist parties, but it sucks for public health.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:13 pm to TigerDoc
Fauci sucks for public health. If you don’t agree with it, you’re just viewing this through a 100% political lens.
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