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re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
You're lying. That is not what the article said.
I even quoted from it.
It said that at the very beginning, then spent the entire rest of the article referring only to "biolabs" to imply that they were all only benign research (which, again, strangely could not be done in the US, but was really, really, really trust-us-bro legit).
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:25 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
"The biolab conspiracy theory" seems to suffer from the same vagueness problem. Some people meant "labs existed". Some meant "dangerous pathogens present". Others meant "offensive bioweapons research". Those aren't interchangeable.
You're right, which is why I labeled it the "kernel of truth"
The kernel of truth: bio labs existed in Ukraine
The extrapolation from that kernel of truth is where you see the dishonesty and conflation, with the "another CT proven true" meme as the cherry on top.
This is the same pattern for all CTs
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:26 pm to Bard
quote:
It said that at the very beginning
I posted multiple paragraphs. It was all about biological weapons/warfare.
quote:
then spent the entire rest of the article referring only to "biolabs"
A flat lie. I literally quoted from all portions of the article.
Why do you debase yourself by promoting such an easily disproven lie?
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:28 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Perhaps I'm naive, but these declassifications may well move the political needle for some.
Otherwise, arrests made or I dont care either.
Otherwise, arrests made or I dont care either.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:28 pm to VoxDawg
Why is this a bad thing?
Explain to me like me 5
Explain to me like me 5
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:30 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
The spin will be that these are innocent and have nothing to do with bioweapons, which I have a hard time believing.
Maybe, but we all know biolabs exist. The crux is in proving purposeful nefarious activities took place. If this can be proven, then we have some traction. The case for this has to be built and presented.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:31 pm to Sams Crow
Member Sensei Hannity Whining about Snowden & muh secret documents?
What damage was caused?
Exactly.
What damage was caused?
Exactly.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:32 pm to lsuguy84
quote:
The crux is in proving purposeful nefarious activities took place. If this can be proven, then we have some traction. The case for this has to be built and presented.
And the documents released today do not build or present that case.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Exactly, or Gabbard would’ve presented evidence/made cases to the DOJ.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
A flat lie. I literally quoted from all portions of the article.
So why weren't they doing that work in the US?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:37 pm to lsuguy84
quote:
Exactly, or Gabbard would’ve presented evidence/made cases to the DOJ.
Correct, and used language more strict than "bio labs"
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:37 pm to Bard
quote:
So why weren't they doing that work in the US?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:40 pm to lsuguy84
The Ukrainian ones were BSL 2 labs.
There is a good reason for helping them. No secret Soviets and Chinese are VERY lax when it comes to safety protocols for biohazards and disease research. Ours are probably gold standard. Do you want us NOT to help a Ukraine with BSL 2 labs? Remember, we lost millions to a Chinese lab leak.
There is a good reason for helping them. No secret Soviets and Chinese are VERY lax when it comes to safety protocols for biohazards and disease research. Ours are probably gold standard. Do you want us NOT to help a Ukraine with BSL 2 labs? Remember, we lost millions to a Chinese lab leak.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:44 pm to VoxDawg
Damn, there it is.
Once again, "conspiracy nuts" were right all along.
Also, this is at least the second if not the third time that Putin of all people ends up being vindicated. From the early days of this war, he said (1) that the US was the backbone of all Ukraine's intelligence services and (2) that we operated bio labs there.
Biden's flunkees denied both and ended up being humiliated.
Putin is a monster and a liar, but he might lie less than our govt.
His claim about the biolabs stuck with me because it was such a strange, debunkable lie to tell.
Unless it was never a lie.
Jeez, what the hell have we been up to over there...sure makes the Biden Admin's keen interest in intervention make a lot more suspect now that all the cards are on the table.
Once again, "conspiracy nuts" were right all along.
Also, this is at least the second if not the third time that Putin of all people ends up being vindicated. From the early days of this war, he said (1) that the US was the backbone of all Ukraine's intelligence services and (2) that we operated bio labs there.
Biden's flunkees denied both and ended up being humiliated.
Putin is a monster and a liar, but he might lie less than our govt.
His claim about the biolabs stuck with me because it was such a strange, debunkable lie to tell.
Unless it was never a lie.
Jeez, what the hell have we been up to over there...sure makes the Biden Admin's keen interest in intervention make a lot more suspect now that all the cards are on the table.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:44 pm to prplhze2000
No, I’ve not said any of that. In fact, if Tulsi found evidence of wrongdoing, I’d like her to present the evidence to the DOJ. The evidence presented today doesn’t move the needle in that direction.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
A lot of these arguments are really retrospective scoring disputes. One side says "the underlying concern turned out to be legitimate." The other says "the specific allegation was still wrong". Both can be true at the same time.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:45 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Not true. Plenty of people in the US have repeatedly brought evidence that supports the reality and some of it has been presented ITT. It is a fact that congress outlawed Fauci's work because it is unethical. It is a fact that Fauci took that work elsewhere to circumvent US law but was still being funded by US taxpayers. I could keep going connecting dots but at this point it would be redundant
they were rejected by the US,
Moreover, China was making the same claims as Ukraine and the US about the illegal activities
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:47 pm to Sharlo
quote:
Damn, there it is.
Once again, "conspiracy nuts" were right all along.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
Instead of just laughing like a moron, how about you prove the information is untrue. One reason why you won't try is because it would confirm that you are a fraud. You have no evidence. All you have is bluster and obfuscation
Posted on 6/12/26 at 2:47 pm to somethingdifferent
This is where these discussions get difficult. Evidence that supports Claim A often gets treated as support for Claims B, C, & D because they're narratively connected. I'm not sure they're evidentially connected to the same degree.
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