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re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
So what is the conspiracy theory with regards to bio Las? They cannot be the mere existence of my laps, it has to be that they were doing something wrong…
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:17 pm to AGGIES
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So what is the conspiracy theory with regards to bio Las?
There isn't one single CT. That's the issue. It shifts with the data.
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They cannot be the mere existence of my laps,
That was never a conspiracy or denied. That's the problem with that regression.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I asked you simple, specific questions about this and this is the standard obfuscation response.
"CV19was a bioweapon" insanity
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP, what is your point? Who are you defending? Tell us who you think is having their reputation sullied by this well established public information? Fauci? The CDC? Biden?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
It’s just gonna be a war on science?
We’re constantly up in arms about having to do things because you can’t be losing to China. So getting pitchforks out over biological research is counterproductive.
We’re constantly up in arms about having to do things because you can’t be losing to China. So getting pitchforks out over biological research is counterproductive.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:22 pm to somethingdifferent
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SFP, what is your point?
Describing a version of the motte and bailey fallacy, which I call the "kernel of truth fallacy" for its specific nature.
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Who are you defending? T
What, not who, and the truth/logic/reality/honesty is the "what" that I'm defending.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your soy filled arse couldn't gut anything. Clown
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:23 pm to AGGIES
quote:
It’s just gonna be a war on science?
What is?
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Aside from the fact that you can't keep up with the conversation, that's not what's being said ITT. You have been presented with several points of evidence in a very clear line of reasoning. The fact that you keep avoiding, obfuscating and not presenting any evidence is completely unsurprising
There isn't one single CT. That's the issue. It shifts with the data.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:26 pm to somethingdifferent
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Aside from the fact that you can't keep up with the conversation,
HOly shite
quote:
You have been presented with several points of evidence in a very clear line of reasoning.
Update: this has not happened.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
The existence of biolabs is inherently a problem or the the DNI.
So I’m wondering if we are demonizing medical research, or what the point of all this is…
So I’m wondering if we are demonizing medical research, or what the point of all this is…
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:26 pm to VoxDawg
The NY times wrote articles on Ukraine's corruption and Nazi problem.
Fast forward to Biden's presidency and that was Russian disinformation. So, either the NY times is lying now, or was pushing Russian propaganda then.
Fast forward to Biden's presidency and that was Russian disinformation. So, either the NY times is lying now, or was pushing Russian propaganda then.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:27 pm to VoxDawg
I remember telling people here why the US was so adamant about protecting Ukraine and that it wasn't about stopping evil Vladimir Putin.
China Flu might have been released in Wuhan, but I 1000% believe it had origins in Ukraine labs.
China Flu might have been released in Wuhan, but I 1000% believe it had origins in Ukraine labs.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:27 pm to AGGIES
quote:
The existence of biolabs is inherently a problem or the the DNI.
Neither is a problem.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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THAT is a pivot
You posted an article specific to bioweapons.
No, I posted an article which called the claims of US biolabs in the Ukraine are Russian propaganda being carried by the Right here in the US.
quote:
The biolab conspiracy theory is an example of how Russian narratives can be seized on and refined by conspiracy theorists in the U.S., who can often spread false narratives far more effectively than Russia's own efforts.
The article then doubles down on how "wrong" these theories are:
quote:
Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic two years ago, conspiracy theorists have embraced a claim that the virus was released from a Chinese biological lab in Wuhan (a recent scientific study reaffirms that the virus likely emerged from a live animal market in the city).
I mean, it's not like there was a lab in Wuhan collecting samples from caves, sequencing viral genomes, and creating chimeric viruses in a building named something like "The Wuhan Institute of Virology." No, it has to be something "more believable" like some anon Typhoid Mary having sex with a pangolin, killing it and then selling as fresh bat meat at a wet market.
That's every bit as "more believable" as the "it's only the good kind of gain-of-function research that we don't want to do in our own country for some re... HEY LOOK! SQUIRREL!"
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Which is moronic because you know nothing to begin with so you're in no position to correct anyone else. IOW, you've presented no evidence of your own that bioweapons are not part of the picture, because you have none which doesn't stop you from acting like a turd. Second, evidence has been presented ITT that you are conspicuously avoiding - no surprise there. Third, just because the kernel is true doesn't mean the rest of the public information isn't also true
Describing a version of the motte and bailey fallacy, which I call the "kernel of truth fallacy" for its specific nature.
quote:Standard non answer. You're not defending "information." This information is inextricably linked to the people responsible for the situation. If you are saying it's a conspiracy theory, you are saying Fauci, et al, were not engaged in illegal activity, which at this point is hilariously naive and stupid
What, not who, and the truth/logic/reality/honesty is the "what" that I'm defending.
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Lie
this has not happened
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:40 pm to AGGIES
There are at least three different claims being conflated, that:
1. The U.S. funded biological laboratories in Ukraine.
2. Some of those labs contained dangerous pathogens.
3. The U.S. and Ukraine were secretly conducting offensive bioweapons research.
The new DNI release (Gabbard) appears to support 1 & partly 2. It discusses US-funded biolabs, including facilities in Ukraine that housed dangerous pathogens and were considered vulnerable during the war, but the most controversial 2022 allegations were generally versions of 3, secret military bioweapons programs, offensive biological warfare research, or labs serving as justification for Russia's invasion. Russia repeatedly advanced those claims internationally, and they were rejected by the US, Ukraine, UN, etc. The thread is mainly arguing over whether the DNI release constitutes factual vindication or (merely) narrative vindication.
1. The U.S. funded biological laboratories in Ukraine.
2. Some of those labs contained dangerous pathogens.
3. The U.S. and Ukraine were secretly conducting offensive bioweapons research.
The new DNI release (Gabbard) appears to support 1 & partly 2. It discusses US-funded biolabs, including facilities in Ukraine that housed dangerous pathogens and were considered vulnerable during the war, but the most controversial 2022 allegations were generally versions of 3, secret military bioweapons programs, offensive biological warfare research, or labs serving as justification for Russia's invasion. Russia repeatedly advanced those claims internationally, and they were rejected by the US, Ukraine, UN, etc. The thread is mainly arguing over whether the DNI release constitutes factual vindication or (merely) narrative vindication.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/12/26 at 1:48 pm to Bard
quote:
No, I posted an article which called the claims of US biolabs in the Ukraine are Russian propaganda
You're lying. That is not what the article said.
I even quoted from it.
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