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re: DNI Gabbard has turned over information to the DOJ

Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Obama is going to jail. I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.


Posted by newmexicotiger
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:16 pm to


Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Also, how is he not absolutely immune from this prosecution? Ignoring the strength of the case, this should fall under executive function which would make him immune.


There is a universe where the DOJ files charges against Obama only to have the Courts dismiss them under absolutely immunity thanks to Trump versus the US and then Trump publicly takes credit for Obama not being convicted.

Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:17 pm to
I love it when pansy faggler gets all excited talking nonsense
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Not when the executive function is promoting sedition you dumbfrick.


Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
Tulsi and Marco have been 10 out of 10 as members of the Trump administration.

Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:19 pm to
I like Tulsi Gabbard
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Not when the executive function is promoting sedition


Remember the hypos during the litigation re: Trump about murder?

LINK

quote:

"I'm going to give you a chance to say ...if you stay by it: The president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military, or orders someone, to assassinate him -- is that within his official acts for which he can get immunity?" she asked.

"It would depend on the hypothetical," Sauer answered. "We could see that could well be an official act."

Sotomayor pressed on that point: "Immunity says even if you did it for personal gain, we won't hold you responsible -- what do you -- how could that be?"

Sauer pointed back to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling from the '80s that held a president is immune from civil liability related to this official acts, which Sauer said is a basis for their own argument now about criminal liability.

"That's an extremely strong doctrine in this court's case law in cases like Fitzgerald," he said.


So even arguing it's sedition, which is a major stretch, it involved the executive function of intelligence/national security.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:20 pm to
Try again oh magnificent ambulance chaser
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

There is a universe where the DOJ files charges against Obama only to have the Courts dismiss them under absolutely immunity thanks to Trump versus the US and then Trump publicly takes credit for Obama not being convicted.




Democrat 100D Candy Land: prosecute Trump knowing they'll get the USSC ruling hoping that it protects Obama, ultimately.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:21 pm to
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I love it when pansy faggler gets all excited talking nonsense


poor candy cuckler
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Try again oh magnificent ambulance chaser

Why?

You still haven't answered the question
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18244 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:22 pm to
Those hypos have nothing to do with seditious conspiracy....and they have his nuts in a vise on that
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Obama is going to jail. I will ban bet anybody that he will be in jail by the end of the year.


Dems will piggyback on their attempt to destroy Trump and say Obama was acting in his official duty as president when he conspired with his merry band of frickheads. Should be an entertaining week or so.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:27 pm to
Tulsi is setting herself up nice for the future with the voters that are sick of the same ole shite in Washington politics.

If this administration does nothing (which I fully expect) it will cost them big time in 2028. Maybe even next year too.

Trump, Patel, Bongino and Bondi better start nailing scrotums to the wall or they are cooked. You can not campaign on cleaning up the corruption then continue to look the other way when the corruption is shown to you.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48220 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Obama is going to jail

oh bullshite - as much has he deserves it, no way in hell will they put a once-POTUS in jail (not named Trump)

I think the best we can hope for wrt Obama is a PARDON from Trump - and I would like to see it make complete revelation of the seditions & crimes he was involved with - remove his security clearance - nullify his retirement - take away his passport - make all his initiatives inactive - restrict his travel - declare him persona-non-grata at any public function and highlight it all in his 'library' for historical record. Give him a permanent 'security detail' that will not only protect him, but report on his activities and contacts. And sort out his birth certificate.

As for the others - Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Schiff et al - with every criminal referral relative to their actions to put them in jail for as long as possible.

And just for fun, bankrupt them with any 'lawfare' actions that can be conjured up.



Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6188 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Also, how is he not absolutely immune from this prosecution? Ignoring the strength of the case, this should fall under executive function which would make him immune.

quote:

AI Overview

The Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity, specifically in the case of Trump v. United States, does not explicitly state whether it applies retroactively to previous presidents. However, the ruling does establish a framework for determining presidential immunity based on official vs. unofficial acts, which could be applied to past presidents. 

Here's a breakdown: 

Core Official Acts:

The Supreme Court ruled that former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for "core" official acts, those within their constitutional authority.

Other Official Acts:

The court also established a presumption of immunity for other official acts, meaning a former president is generally immune unless the prosecution can prove the act was not within the outer perimeter of their duties.



Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6407 posts
Posted on 7/21/25 at 12:32 pm to
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bankrupt them with any 'lawfare' actions


They have deeper pockets than Rudy and My Pillow hoaxer
.....and their base are not rural and will support them
unlike above
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