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re: Dispensationalism

Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14619 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:19 pm to
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Why do you desire more than the scriptures?

The Bible is the most wonderful thing in this world.

I've studied it for decades and I still get my daily bread that nourishes my spirit. Some revelations make me want to jump and shout.

I suspect you are not in the word enough if you are unsatisfied.


This. Read the Bible with your goal being getting closer to God and learning from Him through His word. NOT reading the Bible and trying to fit it into today's political landscape or whatever.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
36918 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Why do you desire more than the scriptures?

The Bible is the most wonderful thing in this world.

I've studied it for decades and I still get my daily bread that nourishes my spirit. Some revelations make me want to jump and shout.

I suspect you are not in the word enough if you are unsatisfied.


Wish every Christian could read this and get it.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6144 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:20 pm to
It's a weapon used by a certain people against well-intentioned Christians. I also know many brothers in Christ who have been fooled by this belief. Sad.
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
36918 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:20 pm to
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This. Read the Bible with your goal being getting closer to God and learning from Him through His word. NOT reading the Bible and trying to fit it into today's political landscape or whatever.



Perfectly said.
Posted by theballguy
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36918 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

It's a weapon used by a certain people against well-intentioned Christians.


I hope this isn't true but I do worry.
Posted by Bayoubred
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2011
4150 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:27 pm to
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So, I would hold to some form of Covenant Theology, but I do have many good brothers in Christ that hold to this system of teaching…even though it is severely flawed and that plays out in many practical ways as well…



Do tell... Christ will sit on the Throne of David and rule and reign for 1000 years. Your hatred of Jews will make you ignorant. Israel will turn to Christ in the Tribulation. Call it what you will. You have to really hate Israel to not see the plain teaching of Scripture.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4567 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:27 pm to
Do a search on life of Samuel untermeyer.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8745 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:31 pm to
I have heard that a book will be published this revealing how the Mystery Body of Christ is revealed in the Old Testament. It will be a huge nail in the coffin of Dispensationalism
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15730 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:32 pm to
Have considered many manners of theology / doctrine of all stripes and nothing surpasses alone time with God, His Son, the Holy Spirit and His Word...Deuteronomy 6 has a nice summation.

I did recently come across an article entitled: Classic Calvinism: Predeterminism Is In Spite Of God's Foreknowledge by Darwin Gray and might be worth a few minutes of your time
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55226 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:33 pm to
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Like, was Schofield a Rothschild agent sent to deceive America into supporting Israel? What else is there. Obviously Balfor is a part of it


I suspect that nobody will ever be able to discover conclusive historical documentation or evidence of this theory.

However, you said that you are a Bible Reader, and as a Bible reader you probably have already discovered the parts of the Bible that the "Schofield Christians" cite as support for their Theology. There are Bible passages that support that part of their Theology. As such, these folks are not crazy.

I guess the key nuance is a simple question of: How far should we go as a country to support the state of Israel? No well adjusted American hates Jews or hates Israel but the question is - How far do we go to protect Israel? I know how far we need to go to prevent another Holocaust of the Jews, that's easy - we should go to war again to stop another Holocaust.

The debate turns on the question of How far should the USA go to protect and support the State of Israel?

I think the answer is that we should support them in all of their lawful, humane and justified acts of self defense.

I also think it's clear that the USA will launch World War 3 should that be necessary to stop another Holocaust Genocide against the Jewish people.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1760 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:34 pm to
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But, recently I became aware of the idea that Dispensationalism had intentionally nefarious beginnings. Meaning, it was started by the cabal, Illuminati, Rothchilds, etc on purpose as a way to bring the so called Israelites back to the Middle East and establish Zionism.


Sweet frick
Posted by tiger789
on the bayou
Member since Dec 2008
2499 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:35 pm to


this is a good discussion of dispensationalism





dispensationalism
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16354 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:37 pm to
Galatians 1
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22091 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 9:52 pm to
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would hold to some form of Covenant Theology

Guy that wants to feel good about their antisemitism
quote:

But, recently I became aware of the idea that Dispensationalism had intentionally nefarious beginnings. Meaning, it was started by the cabal, Illuminati, Rothchilds, etc on purpose as a way to bring the so called Israelites back to the Middle East and establish Zionism.

you are a straight up retard
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 1:08 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20599 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:06 pm to
I love the look on a diehard Dispy's face when you tell them that premillenial dispensationalism is only about 100 years old and was developed by a failed lawyer turned pastor and was funded by Jews.

A funny story. I am a Presbyterian (Calvinist) and I live deep in Baptist land, where there are three megachurches. We regularly get people from those churches that are seeking "milk to meat" and want to get deeper in the Word.

A few years ago, we had a new member who had been raised in one of the local megachurches and knew nothing but dispensationalism when it came to end times. My wife and I had gotten to know them, as our oldest kids were the same age and were in the same kindergarten class.

We had a Sunday School series on the end times and he went while I chose another class that term. I get a call from him the first Sunday afternoon asking what I thought about the Sunday School teacher, an attorney with an M.Div that really knows his stuff. I tell him such and he tells me that he was teaching heresy.

Alarmed, I asked, and he basically explained that the heresy was Covenant theology. I laughed and said that's what 90 percent of the world's Christians believe, man. He was in his early 30s and had never heard anything other than Left Behind garbage.

This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6332 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:07 pm to
I agreed with most of what he said in the first 4 paragraphs, then he veered into heresy for the rest of it.
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6332 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:09 pm to
Does everyone around you clap?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20249 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:09 pm to
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None of this matters on the grand scale.


Of course it does. If you can't see the clash coming between Zionists and Orthodox Christians/others who reject Zionism, then I'm not sure what to tell ya hoss.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20249 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:11 pm to
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I hope this isn't true but I do worry.



Of course it's true. What do you think TPUSA is for?!
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3783 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:19 pm to
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Is there a shred of legitimacy to this? Or is that just internet speculation?
I'm not even sure what you are asking. however, I will tell you what is truth.

for sure dispensationalism is the most accurate. The nation of Israel was a preview/foreshadowing of the church. however, God Almighty had and has a specific purpose for Israel. He stated and determined they would achieve a certain thing. they achieved some of that purpose. The are called God Chosen people. that means they were chosen to do something. they have not do enough of that purpose for God Almighty to say they have completed it. Therefore, the 144,000 Jews of Revelation will be the completion have that purpose. Christ absolutely cannot and will not return until Israel complete what God chose for them to do. And only He knows what qualifies them as having done so.
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