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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
6332 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:24 pm to
Imagine the look on his face when a trans freak stands in your church’s pulpit.

I don’t support mega churches, and sincerely doubt anyone is getting any real help there, but let’s not act like the Presbyterian church has any high ground here.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20599 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:26 pm to
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I don’t support mega churches, and sincerely doubt anyone is getting any real help there, but let’s not act like the Presbyterian church has any high ground here.


Presbyterian Church in America. Ultra conservative. No female pastors much less gays and trannys.

Not the freak Presbyterians that have tarnished the name.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 10:27 pm
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16302 posts
Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:36 pm to
Using Chatgpt to help explain part of the history.


Tell me more about below

"It embedded dispensationalist interpretations directly alongside the biblical text".

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Scofields method:

The Bible text stayed in the main body
His interpretive notes were placed at the bottom of the same page
Cross-references ran through the margins.

So as someone read a verse, the explanation was immediately visible, not something they had to go look up elsewhere.

Over time, many readers absorbed the notes almost as if they were part of the Bible itself—even though they were commentary.


A verse about Israel >sends you to another verse > then to another
Those connections were carefully chosen to reinforce dispensational ideas


Before many passages, Scofield added headings like:
“Israel’s Future Restoration”
“The Kingdom Promised”
“The Church Age”
Those headings:
Frame how you interpret the passage before you even read it.

Powerful because:
It required no seminary training
It turned complex theology into a guided reading experience
It scaled to millions of readers
Controversial because:
Critics argue it blurs the line between Scripture and interpretation
It can make one theological system feel like the only obvious reading


This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 10:40 pm
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
17957 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:52 am to
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If you're a part of the True Church and can take simple direction, you are assured of Heaven even if you're just part of the universal church. We recognize sincere Evangelicals. The rest is just details.


Uh if that's your belief, you should probably reconsider that stance, and if you attend a church that tells you that you should find a different church.
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
615 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:44 am to
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Of course it does. If you can't see the clash coming between Zionists and Orthodox Christians/others who reject Zionism, then I'm not sure what to tell ya hoss.


In terms of going to heaven if you believe the gospel then it doesn't matter if you also believe in dispensationalism or covenant theology or any other "ology".

John 3:16-18
16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Please try to keep up hoss.
Posted by Canon951
Member since May 2020
615 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:47 am to
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Uh if that's your belief, you should probably reconsider that stance, and if you attend a church that tells you that you should find a different church.


The indoctrination runs deep with some here.
Posted by WKUHilltopper
Member since Dec 2025
48 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:55 am to
Jesus is sitting in David’s Throne right now hoss
Posted by WKUHilltopper
Member since Dec 2025
48 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:01 am to
To restart this thread, I don’t care about anyone’s religious opinion, I just want to know if there is any historical accuracy to the idea that Schofield was an agent of the Cabal to bring the Jews back to the Middle East and ultimately form a one world government.

Also, does anyone this that the Jews that are not Jews in revelation has anything to do with this.

Thank you
Posted by PreacherJoseyWales
Member since Jan 2021
2 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:52 am to
God moves through people to bring about His promises and purposes. The Jews have been brought back into the land that God promised them. God has gathered them back in unbelief. God is putting the pieces in place for the coming tribulation. Before there was a Schofield, the Lord God said this:

??Isaiah? ?66?:?7?-?8? ?KJV??
“Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.”

and this

Deuteronomy 4:27-31
27 And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.
28 And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.
29 But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.


and Jesus said this

??Matthew? ?23?:?37?-?39? ?KJV??
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”

* Israel had to become a nation in one day (Isa. 66:5-9).
* Israel will not be destroyed again (Amos 9:15).
* Israel must complete the 7-year Tribulation Period before the Jews accept Jesus as their Messiah (Dan. 9:24-27).
* The 7-year Tribulation Period will begin when the Antichrist confirms a covenant with many (Dan. 9:27).
* God will make Jerusalem become a problem for the world (Zech. 12:2-3). God will destroy every nation that attacks it (Zech. 12:6-9; 14:12).
* God will pour out His Spirit on Israel at the end and the Jews will accept Jesus as their Messiah (Jer. 23:5-8; Ezek. 36:24-28; Zech 12:10-14), Jesus will return, and all Israel will be saved (Rom. 11:26).

Posted by BayouBengalRubicon
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
534 posts
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:50 am to
This is the correct answer !

I know some Dispensationalist and the way they worship jews and Israel over Jesus is bizarre! It's this exploitation of Christians that has resulted in the US being a slave to Israel.

quote:

The modern nation state of Israel is not the heir of God’s promises to ancient Israel



The Jews of the modern world follow the old covenant that was rendered obsolete by Christ.

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