- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Did Trump ever believe he could stop Ukraine War on Day One?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:50 am to Tmcgin
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:50 am to Tmcgin
quote:
Beta males would call it arrogant
Check your senses --Helen Keller would say he looks/sounds like an arrogant crook
Helen Keller is your argument for/against beta males?
0
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:53 am to I20goon
quote:
I think he was calculating 3 things that, together, would allow that; he misread all 3:
Based on what information?
Ignorance is not a viable excuse. You are very generous towards Trump, describing them as Calculated risks.
When you fire the intelligent people and listen to the ignorant people, you get ignorant decisions.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
I think Trump believes that this war could’ve been entirely avoided if Obama and Biden had wanted it so. There is no denying the CIAs role in this …. thanks Victoria
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:01 am to prouddawg
quote:yep
Everyone knows Trump exaggerates. At the same time, Trump also gets results.
india-pakistan
he's dealing with a warmongering piece of shite zelensky on UKraine-Russia
not to mention boatloads of dual citizens working for all the Ukraine land Larry Fink was said to have purchased.. thanks Victoria; Wolfowitz, 150 others in our government
once THEY get involved everything gets completely fuccckey
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:12 am to dgnx6
quote:
But since it isn’t really going that well the next move should just back away and let Ukraine and Europe handle it.
Wasn't that clear from Day One?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:14 am to IvoryBillMatt
All he has to do is turn off the $ taps and the war goes away in 2 weeks.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:14 am to ronricks
Trump isn’t grifting off of Ukraine or using his son as a bagman like the BIG guy, so…
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:25 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
The President executes the will of the American people.
A majority of the American people actually wanted American involvement in Ukraine to end, IMMEDIATELY. That was a major reason we replaced a Globalist with the Nationalist, Trump.
Giddy-Up!
Are we back to 2017-2020 when we were told the Globalists-Deep State had shackled Trump?
Either Trump is the President of We the People with real exec power, OR he's not, and what we've told about a "Shadow Govt" calling the shots may be the sickening secret truth of the matter.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:27 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
Trump isn’t grifting off of Ukraine or using his son as a bagman like the BIG guy, so…
Right just doing the memecoin thing...
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:27 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
Do you think Trump really thought the War could be stopped on Day One of his Presidency?
It could have been accomplished in a month, if we had cut all funding to Ukraine so long as the war continued, and we had compelled Europe (along with ourselves in the lead role) to completely decouple from the Reds as long as an active conflict still exists.
But instead, we kept on funding Ukraine and the majority of Europe kept buying oil from Russia. It's impossible to get either Russia or Ukraine to stand down, when they're getting everything they need.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:31 am to SDVTiger
quote:
Its unfortunare Zelensky is a weasel and didnt end it a month ago
True but I thought Trump was supposed to take care of it. Day 1. Now, Putin is playing Trump.
Trump was right though ... Putin is brilliant.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:33 am to TigerAxeOK
quote:
It's impossible to get either Russia or Ukraine to stand down, when they're getting everything they need.
This! The only option is to look after ourselves. Cut funding to Ukraine.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:42 am to AGGIES
quote:where did I use the generous (your words) of calculated risks.
Ignorance is not a viable excuse. You are very generous towards Trump, describing them as Calculated risks.
I said he made 3 calculations. And that it was dependent on all 3 to get his peace deal. And, furthermore, he missed on all 3.
So if you want to call that generous go right ahead. But that's you applying that to me in error for your own message board argument. SFP has taught you well- extrapolate, tag, argue the tag while avoiding the real point.
I'm surprised you managed to leave the words cult or chaos out of your post. Well done sir (we all know it is a matter of time).
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:43 am to boosiebadazz
quote:
Total capitulation would be a beta move by Z, no?
No dancing in drag with high heels is tho
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:45 am to Jack Ruby
quote:worth noting, Congress can turn off the tap all by their lonesome.
All he has to do is turn off the $ taps and the war goes away in 2 weeks.
Trump, if Congress chooses to push, can not.
Remember- he was impeached for threatening to withhold funding to Ukraine that Congress had specifically funded and earmarked.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:50 am to IvoryBillMatt
He said it 53 times in public speeches..
He said within 24 hours.. not just spitballing .. that is pretty specific
I judge people by what they do not what they say they will do.
He said within 24 hours.. not just spitballing .. that is pretty specific
I judge people by what they do not what they say they will do.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:59 am to IvoryBillMatt
I think he thought both sides wanted to end the bloodshed, but Z is unwilling to shut it down because as soon as he does and Ukraine holds elections his arse will be on the curb or maybe prison.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:01 am to I20goon
It is generous to think that he made three 3 calculations.
Did he say he made these three calculations?
Did anybody within his team say he made these three calculations?
Are these just your assumptions?
That being said, assuming your answer is that these were legit calculations….
If I make the calculation that you are going to give me all of your property for nothing in return, is that a calculation or something else?
What if before the negotiation I insult you and call you a slob. How does that factor into the calculation?
Did he say he made these three calculations?
Did anybody within his team say he made these three calculations?
Are these just your assumptions?
That being said, assuming your answer is that these were legit calculations….
If I make the calculation that you are going to give me all of your property for nothing in return, is that a calculation or something else?
What if before the negotiation I insult you and call you a slob. How does that factor into the calculation?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:01 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
What's the pro-Trump explanation for the failure to end the war on Day One?
It's called rhetoric. Saying you are going to do something on day one simply means it is important and you are going to focus on it. The fact that you think Trump was literally going to end the war within 12 hours of being inaugurated and that it is some giant failure that he didn't says much more about your intellect and emotional maturity than it does Trump's abilities.
Only idiots actually think the war was going to end on Jan 20, and only emotional retards consider it a negative that Trump hasn't been able to end a multi-year war when neither combatant wants it to end.
This is just a pathetic talking point for the TDS losers. You are bitching about a situation where Trump doesn't really have control but is trying to help.
You know Trump is doing things right when so many fools focus on things outside of Trump's control. It's no different than all the democrats saying, "Why hasn't Trump brought down egg prices yet? He's been president for a week."
The fact that all you "conservatives" can't see that you act exactly like the left gives me no hope for our future.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:03 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
Trump isn’t grifting off of Ukraine
No need. Memecoin to the rescue
Page 4 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News