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re: Did this ex-gay fellow's genetics change? or is there another explanation?
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:16 pm to League Champs
Posted on 12/17/13 at 11:16 pm to League Champs
Which is why those of us who aren't Christians can't get over how petty the god you worship is 
Posted on 12/18/13 at 12:13 am to Joshjrn
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Which is why those of us who aren't Christians can't get over how petty the god you worship is
I used to think my parents rules were petty, too. Until I had kids, and grew up a lot
Posted on 2/11/14 at 5:57 pm to Joshjrn
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Show me the intelligence gene.
OK, here ya go
LINK
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A gene which may make people more intelligent has been found by scientists
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To confirm the finding, the team studied the NPTN gene more closely in mouse and human brain cells in the lab and found it had a different activity in the left and right hemispheres of the brain.
So I guess you cant beat that dead horse anymore. There is now a gene for everything, except the ghey. Its becoming more and more clear that its a choice
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:04 pm to KeyserSoze999
People pretend to be straight in every country every single second of every single day. Why is this even being discussed?
Does anyone here NOT know a guy/girl who dated or slept with members of the opposite sex then turned out to be gay?
Does anyone here NOT know a guy/girl who dated or slept with members of the opposite sex then turned out to be gay?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:06 pm to League Champs
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Each person has their own set of challenges.
Yours don't involve depriving yourself of an inherent biological urge every day of your life, though.
It isn't just that you cant go out and chase other women while having sex with your wife, they are expected to NEVER have sex EVER.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:13 pm to League Champs
Let me get this straight. Since the advent of the human genome project, we have been searching for genetic markers for intelligence. Now, after all this time, we have found a marker that might be indirectly related to intelligence, and you think you've found a gotcha?
It's almost as if some of you never actually read scientific literature...
It's almost as if some of you never actually read scientific literature...
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:26 pm to Joshjrn
It's pretty funny this debate between you and League is picking up right where it left off at a brisk pace after two months of inactivity. 
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:40 pm to Joshjrn
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and you think you've found a gotcha?
It's almost as if some of you never actually read scientific literature...
Odd, considering its scientific literature that says they are done looking for the gay gene, and have moved on to the possibility of epigenetics
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A team of international researchers has completed a study that suggests we will probably never find a ‘gay gene.' Sexual orientation is not about genetics, say the researchers, it's about epigenetics. This is the process where DNA expression is influenced by any number of external factors in the environment.
Obviously no one thought the same of an intelligence gene, since they seem to have been continuing to look for it and have now found it
But your attempts at puffing up your cause by using the intelligence gene comparison has proven to be a fatal error
Posted on 2/11/14 at 6:42 pm to KeyserSoze999
Obviously.
The only other explanation is that it is a choice...and it CAN'T be that!
The only other explanation is that it is a choice...and it CAN'T be that!
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:10 pm to League Champs
So, I ask again: if it turns out to be epigenetic as opposed to genetic, how does that in any way support your position that being gay is a choice?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:12 pm to Joshjrn
He expects people to repress their urges.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:13 pm to los angeles tiger
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You are an arrogant, self-centered arse that has called me horrible names so don't act so righteous with me.
This post is a gigantic BOOM!
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:17 pm to Joshjrn
Please excuse my uneducated question...
If there is a genetic source for homosexuality, would one expect that it would be a trait that was passed on to offspring? If so, it seems that it would have a very difficult time surviving as a trait, considering it's inherent limitations regarding reproductive properties.
Furthermore, are epigenetics hereditary?
If there is a genetic source for homosexuality, would one expect that it would be a trait that was passed on to offspring? If so, it seems that it would have a very difficult time surviving as a trait, considering it's inherent limitations regarding reproductive properties.
Furthermore, are epigenetics hereditary?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:25 pm to Jimbeaux
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Furthermore, are epigenetics hereditary?
Yep.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:41 pm to KeyserSoze999
Delivered from demonic oppression, maybe even possession.
I saw a homosexual who got baptized and he come up out of that water and had a, shall we say, crazy look and sound ( didn't sound human ) and dude was about 6 foot 4 and was thrashing all around.
I saw a homosexual who got baptized and he come up out of that water and had a, shall we say, crazy look and sound ( didn't sound human ) and dude was about 6 foot 4 and was thrashing all around.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:51 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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I saw a homosexual who got baptized and he come up out of that water and had a, shall we say, crazy look and sound ( didn't sound human ) and dude was about 6 foot 4 and was thrashing all around.
Go on....
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:57 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Delivered from demonic oppression, maybe even possession
Tell us more
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:00 pm to TheDoc
He, more than anyone on this entire board, exemplifies his username.
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