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re: Did the Police use excessive Force?

Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26956 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

As someone that chooses to carry concealed, what do you think would happen to me if I just started shooting randomly in every direction because something spooked me?


Something different than how a police officer would be treated since you are not a police officer.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92547 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

I have a feeling this was well deserved. I've never been jabbed with a night stick.


lol you know he was taunting the cop too all soy like. Poor VOR.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69038 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:14 pm to
The guy with the dog seems like a fricking moron, but so does the driver so whatever. Idiots enjoying each other.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3174 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Something different than how a police officer would be treated since you are not a police officer.


That's not how our Constitution or legal system is designed. We are all to be treated equally under the law. That's either some foul ignorance or bootlicking on your part.

If you needed a haircut, would you hold someone at a salon with a barber license to a higher standard than your cousin with a pair of scissors?
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23738 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:23 pm to
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See, this tells me that you really don't pay much attention to bad policing.


So there are over 50 million police encounters with the public in a year. In 2023 there were around 300K use of force cases. Of those 300K only 100K received injuries.

You have a better chance of your doctor commuting malpractice against you than a policeman committing excessive force.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3174 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:23 pm to
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The guy with the dog seems like a fricking moron, but so does the driver so whatever. Idiots enjoying each other.


Yep. That's my take as well.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23498 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:24 pm to
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The guy ran from a traffic stop driving at well over 100 mph and almost killed several people in the process.


As did the cops in pursuit. Just say’n.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154601 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:26 pm to
Lay out your knowledge of police procedures for us.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23498 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:32 pm to
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The guy with the dog seems like a fricking moron, but so does the driver so whatever. Idiots enjoying each other.


This x1000.

Cop unleashes fang and fury on man.

The dog proceeds to gnaw on the man’s hand like it is a ham sandwich.

Man attempts to push dog off while screaming in agony.

Cop yells: “Stop fight’n my dog!”

This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23738 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:37 pm to
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Yes, there was simply no reason to put the driver or dog at risk in that situation. The cops used the dog because it was there, not because it was mission critical.


That’s what the K9 is there for in the first place. A K9 is a non lethal use of force (in most cases). The guy could have had any number of weapons including a knife. Back when I worked as a deputy in the 90’s one of our deputies was in a similar situation. He reached into the car to pull the guy out and bad guy had a straight razor and cut his arm so bad he had to get 70 stitches. He was lucky another deputy was there with a tourniquet or he would have bled to death.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3174 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:39 pm to
The perfect flag for the faux conservatives around here.

Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10395 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:40 pm to
WhErE bEnJaMiN cRuMp At???

Oh wait.

WeLl If He WaSn’T wHiTe DeY wUdA sHoT iM!!!
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:46 pm to
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But a cop, that is supposed to be a trained professional, faces no consequences.


Yeah, in one case.

In another case a cop was sent to prison for 21 years for the death of a criminal in his charge whom the autopsy proved he didn't kill.

And in both cases, the smoothbrains scream (that's you in this case, in case you have trouble following me there).

You are deliberately missing the point. The point is that there are over 50,000,000 encounters between citizens and police in any given year. Even 1% of them being encounters in which the police "acted like tyrants with no accountability" would statistically represent 500,000 cases. That's 10,000 per year, per state. That's over 27 cases every day in every state in the US.

Now since you apparently do pay attention to bad policing, how many such incidences—ones in which police acted like criminals but were not held accountable—can you name from 2024?

10? 100? Even if you can name 1000, that would represent a whopping .002% of all encounters.

Unfortunately for you, these numbers are known. Just because it makes you really, really mad when you see examples of police misconduct does NOT mean that it is anything except extremely rare. You have no evidence to suggest that it is anything but extremely rare.

You are "thinking" just like the George Floyd rioters that did over a billion dollars worth of damage over something that happens around 9 times a year out of over 50,000,000 encounters.

Again, just because it makes you really mad does not mean it's common.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 2:47 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:51 pm to
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The perfect flag for the faux conservatives around here.


It's better than the flag you made up and printed on your printer at home as a "sovereign citizen."

Look dude, I encourage you to resist and fight with the cops. I dare you. Show them what a manly man you are.

And I'll be waiting to see your video on YouTube where you are the one screaming in pain at the end of the video like a schoolgirl.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3174 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:58 pm to
See, the difference between you and me is that I can praise good police when I see them. I really like the Sheriff in Polk County FL. He's a good guy and is fair. He holds his officers to the same standards as everyone else in his jurisdiction. He has shown that he isn't partisan and has thrown his own in jail. If all law enforcement like Sheriff Grady Judd, you wouldn't hear a peep out of me.

I don't care how "rare" any police misconduct is. It should be called out and prosecuted. You've still got cops out there arresting people for giving them the middle finger. If you don't think that a problem, then you're just really goddamn un-American.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3174 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:00 pm to
Ah, yes. The standard intellectually lazy argument of "YOU MUST BE A CRIMINAL!" when someone criticizes the government.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19453 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:02 pm to
I’d like to see the beginning
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

It should be called out and prosecuted.


Nobody ever said it shouldn't, you moron.

Who exactly do you think is here defending cops shooting at an acorn?

But you have repeatedly made statements that cops are tyrants who are never held accountable for bad behavior and that's simply not true. Maybe .000000001% of cops are tyrants who are not held accountable for bad behavior.

That's like calling you a liar because you lie .000000001% of the time.

It's just stupid and emotionally reactive. It's something a hysterical woman would do.

Yeah. The police force in America makes some extremely rare egregious errors.

Now name any group with over 1.2 million members about whom you can't say that.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:09 pm to
quote:


Ah, yes. The standard intellectually lazy argument of "YOU MUST BE A CRIMINAL!" when someone criticizes the government.


Since you were either too stupid or lazy to quote the statement to which you replied, and since it almost certainly mischaracterizes what I actually said, I don't know what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 3:10 pm to
ran from the cops for one thing. they don't like that.
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