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re: Did the Police use excessive Force?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:06 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:06 pm to wackatimesthree
should have tazed the shite out of him after breaking the passenger window, dragged his arse out. cutting a dog loose inside a car seems a little excessive
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:06 pm to John Barron
You run from the law and endanger my community and everyone using the road that day and this is what you get.
They should show this video in every school 9th grade mandatory especially thug u in the hood schools.
They should show this video in every school 9th grade mandatory especially thug u in the hood schools.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:11 pm to beaux duke
It’s not excessive though.
I didn’t even hear the cop give him the bite command.
I didn’t even hear the cop give him the bite command.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:14 pm to roadGator
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I didn’t even hear the cop give him the bite command.
i'll amend my statement - it does look like the dog doesn't bite him in the car. does sound like he's gnawing his ankle off when he gets out tho, which i'm fine with
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:15 pm to wackatimesthree
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But nothing on that video looks like it exceeds the law or the average police policy
I never said it did. There seem to be a lot of cop fetishists around here and was just asking if they believed a cop can act any way they please.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:15 pm to beaux duke
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cutting a dog loose inside a car seems a little excessive
Not to me.
Tasers can be lethal.
I wouldn't have done it b/c of the danger to the dog, but the guy has less chance of something going very wrong and ending up dead with the dog than the taser, although he may have a greater chance of a non-lethal injury.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:17 pm to FreedomBarefoot
The handler put his dog at risk with all that broken glass still on the window and in the dudes lap. Just tase the dude
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:19 pm to John Barron
Siccing an attack dog on a guy sitting in a car with 3 armed police seems excessive. We know he was unarmed because those cops would have already killed him. So what was the point of using a beast whose only thought process is to attack on an unarmed guy who physically couldn't fight the cops from his seated position?
No tasers? Why didn't the cops open the door and pull him out like they always do when a K9 unit isn't there?
Yes, there was simply no reason to put the driver or dog at risk in that situation. The cops used the dog because it was there, not because it was mission critical.
No tasers? Why didn't the cops open the door and pull him out like they always do when a K9 unit isn't there?
Yes, there was simply no reason to put the driver or dog at risk in that situation. The cops used the dog because it was there, not because it was mission critical.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:20 pm to Dex Morgan
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I never said it did. There seem to be a lot of cop fetishists around here and was just asking if they believed a cop can act any way they please.
Oh, come on.
That was absolutely the point of your repeated diatribes.
If not, it was an intensely stupid question. Nobody thinks cops can literally act any way they want, and you know it.
It's been 4 pages or so since you asked the original question so you may have forgotten this, but I'm the person you originally asked.
And I didn't say anything to indicate that I am a "cop fetishist" before you asked me that.
Be honest. You hate cops and you lost control of yourself there for a minute.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:24 pm to OGTiger
Was there anyone killed during the chase?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:26 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Why didn't the cops open the door and pull him out like they always do when a K9 unit isn't there?
Oh, they were probably pretty pissed at the guy by then. So yeah, there was some retribution being sought.
Officially I would say that there is no room in police work for retribution, but those guys are human too.
I'll sleep just fine tonight with the knowledge that they didn't have to go quite as far as they did to resolve that particular situation. I wouldn't say that about every police over reach, but IMO this situation was a very small over reach. One I can live with.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:26 pm to wackatimesthree
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Be honest. You hate cops and you lost control of yourself there for a minute.
I hate what they have become. Tyrants that rarely face any accountability. Believe it or not, there was a time when cops were held to higher standards. A few got sent the electric chair and governors stood firm and refused to commute the sentence to set an example.
Now you've got cops literally spraying bullets because an acorn fell on their car and not a single charge filed against them. Don't even get me started on their actions during covid.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:30 pm to roadGator
quote:Because the wolf was off duty.
Why even bring in the dog?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:32 pm to Dex Morgan
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I hate what they have become.
I honestly think in our Tik-Tok age they are a lot better than they used to be when body cams were not standard.
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Tyrants that rarely face any accountability.
Bull. They wear body cams during every encounter. The defense attorney subpoenas them in every case. They've never been more accountable than they are now.
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Now you've got cops literally spraying bullets because an acorn fell on their car and not a single charge filed against them.
This sounds like a specific case that I am not aware of. Regardless of how egregious the conduct may be in this case, when you look at the sheer number of encounters police have with the public each year there is no reasonable conclusion other than that egregious police behavior is very rare. Whether we're talking about shooting at acorns or killing unarmed black men.
I'll tell you what has changed, though, and that is citizen compliance. Everybody thinks their rights are being violated now any time a police officer speaks to them.
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:35 pm to roadGator
quote:It's not a big deal .... unless risk of a dog's death as opposed to a discharged taser is a big deal.
Not sure what the big deal is.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:41 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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No tasers? Why didn't the cops open the door and pull him out like they always do when a K9 unit isn't there?
They did taser the guy as he was pulled him out. At the 12:50 mark. The k9 handler with his dog in one hand and his taser in the other.
One cop sounds concerned they are being video taped by the some bystanders around that time
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:43 pm to John Barron
Man frick that dude, I hope that dog tore his arse up. He hits my wife or daughter acting like that and I'd go Taliban on his arse.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:44 pm to wackatimesthree
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This sounds like a specific case that I am not aware of. Regardless of how egregious the conduct may be in this case, when you look at the sheer number of encounters police have with the public each year there is no reasonable conclusion other than that egregious police behavior is very rare. Whether we're talking about shooting at acorns or killing unarmed black men.
See, this tells me that you really don't pay much attention to bad policing. That incident was discussed at length on this very forum. A Florida cop had a guy in custody (that was later determined there was no cause for the arrest) and in the back of his patrol car. An acorn falls on the patrol car and the cop just starts shooting wildly in every direction. Including at other cops standing around. He narrowly missed shooting the guy in custody. He later claimed he thought the guy in custody (who was belted and in handcuffs) was shooting at him. He was allowed to resign with no charges.
As someone that chooses to carry concealed, what do you think would happen to me if I just started shooting randomly in every direction because something spooked me? Do you think I'd just be let off? Hell no. I'd be arrested and facing a whole list of charges. But a cop, that is supposed to be a trained professional, faces no consequences.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:46 pm to carguymatt
Posts with the full video and context should always be pinned to the top in these threads.
Otherwise you get every sovereign citizen and kid diddler in the SEC region jumping in to whine about muh use of force
Otherwise you get every sovereign citizen and kid diddler in the SEC region jumping in to whine about muh use of force
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:49 pm to John Barron
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