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Did the Dossier lead to an investigation?
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:08 pm
I need some help. I haven’t kept up with “muh Russians” that much. Anyway, so a pink haired guy is arguing with a woman on my FB about the dossier. This is what pink hair said:
“Trumps Russia connection dates back to the spring of 2016 when a number of his campaign operatatives were caught in intelligent service surveillance of Russian monsters and oligarchs. The FBI has been investigating this since at least last summer.
I’m sure you recall the outrage regarding the Clinton Comey Memo a week before election while saying nothing about the specious things they were finding out about the Trump campaign.
This dossier did NOT trigger any investigation. The special council was named because of Trumps firing of Comey for not pledging loyalty to help him make this go away. This dossier is just ONE piece of evidence being reviewed as part of his investigation. No one knew about this until Dec or Jan of this year. You make it sound as if Hillary/DNC handed it to the authorities to get this ball rolling.
Now, what here facts did I get wrong?”
So, is this dude wrong? The lady hasn’t responded yet, but if she does I’ll update.
“Trumps Russia connection dates back to the spring of 2016 when a number of his campaign operatatives were caught in intelligent service surveillance of Russian monsters and oligarchs. The FBI has been investigating this since at least last summer.
I’m sure you recall the outrage regarding the Clinton Comey Memo a week before election while saying nothing about the specious things they were finding out about the Trump campaign.
This dossier did NOT trigger any investigation. The special council was named because of Trumps firing of Comey for not pledging loyalty to help him make this go away. This dossier is just ONE piece of evidence being reviewed as part of his investigation. No one knew about this until Dec or Jan of this year. You make it sound as if Hillary/DNC handed it to the authorities to get this ball rolling.
Now, what here facts did I get wrong?”
So, is this dude wrong? The lady hasn’t responded yet, but if she does I’ll update.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:11 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
The dossier was the main piece of evidence used to get approval for the secret wiretaps of people working for trump.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:12 pm to wickowick
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The dossier was the main piece of evidence used to get approval for the secret wiretaps of people working for trump.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:12 pm to wickowick
Link to it being the main thing?
Words have meaning for a reason
Words have meaning for a reason
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:13 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
What she posted is possible. But apparently Congress persons are going to try to find out if the dossier was in any way used as reason for the FISA warrant. No real clear information on this, and I doubt we ever find out.
But a lot of strange things have happened, and given who is POTUS, I'd personally stay tuned. And stay woke.
But a lot of strange things have happened, and given who is POTUS, I'd personally stay tuned. And stay woke.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:14 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
The dossier was circulated during the summer of 2016 by John McCain. The DNC paid for it as well. The Dossier is a fabricated story and none of it is true, but was used by Obama Admin and Comey to begin investigation after the election. It was the basis of an intelligence survelliance of American Citizens.
From July 2017
I'll post the England Court document that names McCain and why he dodged the Senate Intel Committee hearing when he became ill with cancer.
From July 2017
I'll post the England Court document that names McCain and why he dodged the Senate Intel Committee hearing when he became ill with cancer.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:18 pm to wickowick
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The dossier was the main piece of evidence used to get approval for the secret wiretaps of people working for trump.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:18 pm to BlueDogTiger
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The dossier was circulated during the summer of 2016 by John McCain. The DNC paid for it as well. The Dossier is a fabricated story and none of it is true, but was used by Obama Admin and Comey to begin investigation after the election. It was the basis of an intelligence survelliance of American Citizens.
. . . and when the apparatus of The State itself can create the cause to direct other apparatuses of The State to investigate private citizens, you have the trappings of a Totalitarian State.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:21 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
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“Trumps Russia connection dates back to the spring of 2016 when a number of his campaign operatatives were caught in intelligent service surveillance of Russian monsters and oligarchs.
False. There's never been any evidence I've seen that Trump's people were talking to Russian "mobsters." The only surveillance data they have released was that of Russians talking to other Russians about Trump. Furthermore, you can bet your arse if there was some bombshell conversation Trump's people had with Russia that it would have been leaked a long time ago. The fact it hasn't been leaked proves there's nothing there.
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This dossier did NOT trigger any investigation. The special council was named because of Trumps firing of Comey for not pledging loyalty to help him make this go away.
This guy is confusing two investigations. The FBI has been investigating Trump long before Mueller was appointed. And all the evidence I've seen points to the dossier being the catalyst to get it rolling.
Moreover, we now know that MI6 and GCHQ in Britain were the agencies that first started spying on Trump's campaign. They passed info along to John Brennan (in person) and even Brennan thought it was a big, fat nothingburger. It wasn't until it was clear Hillary might be in a real fight that they made a big deal out of it.
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No one knew about this until Dec or Jan of this year. You make it sound as if Hillary/DNC handed it to the authorities to get this ball rolling.
False. The press had the dossier for MONTHS before Buzzfeed released it. Buzzfeed wasn't the only one who was sitting on it, but were the only ones who would publish (an obviously fake) document. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NYT all had the dossier for MONTHS, but none of them published it because they couldn't corroborate a single piece of it.
TL;DR -- Red-haired SJW doesn't know what he's talking about.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:22 pm to boosiebadazz
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Link to it being the main thing?
Words have meaning for a reason
Here ya go, mate. And a pic is worth a thousand words
And you cant even shoot this messenger
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:25 pm to RobbBobb
Bolster
As a part of
Like I said, words have a meaning for a reason
Don’t become fake news just for the clickbait
As a part of
Like I said, words have a meaning for a reason
Don’t become fake news just for the clickbait
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:26 pm to KyleOrtonsMustache
The Dossier was the result of a PAID FOR,prejudiced investigation,intended to find believable dirt.
Hell,you can do that to anybody,if that is what you are getting paid to do. Hookers will say anything,they use their mouths for all kinds of nasty shite. Do you think lying is off limits?
But Then, the information gets passed on to a supposed impartial government agency at the direction of a certain political party,that happens to be in executive power,leaked to media,and get's citizens bugged and tapped.
Hell, I don't see anything wrong.
Hell,you can do that to anybody,if that is what you are getting paid to do. Hookers will say anything,they use their mouths for all kinds of nasty shite. Do you think lying is off limits?
But Then, the information gets passed on to a supposed impartial government agency at the direction of a certain political party,that happens to be in executive power,leaked to media,and get's citizens bugged and tapped.
Hell, I don't see anything wrong.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:29 pm to auggie
This is so God damned dirty and there are little unconnected people who blithely carry water for these fricking criminals.
They are like the assholes that support the government in Venezuela.
They are like the assholes that support the government in Venezuela.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:30 pm to gthog61
Can I count on you to call your congressman to lobby against the new FISA rules?
Posted on 10/26/17 at 6:34 pm to AUstar
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The fact it hasn't been leaked proves there's nothing there.
i don’t think you understand how proof works
Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:13 pm to boosiebadazz
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Like I said, words have a meaning for a reason Don’t become fake news just for the clickbait
Stop wasting our delicious oxygen you desperate mouth-breather. Damn you are pre-programmed to parrot whatever the latest bullshite is... Just stop.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:16 pm to stickly
I’m sorry you don’t understand how the FISA court works, but it’s not my job to educate you
Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:18 pm to wickowick
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The dossier was the main piece of evidence used to get approval for the secret wiretaps of people working for trump.
Yeah, you don't know that. There was the CNN article that said it was used in the FISA court but no one said it was the main piece of evidence. Hell, no one has reported what parts of the dossier the court considered or even if the court found it credible.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 7:19 pm to boosiebadazz
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You are fake news
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