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Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Damn. He may be signaling the death of his national profile with this decision.
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SlowFlowPro
I'm getting embarrassed for you.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
Autism is a crippling disorder…and so is TDS
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:58 am to Jjdoc
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I have answered that and your refusal to acknowledge that doesn't change it.
All you have said is the federal government can’t do anything about voter fraud which is wrong.
The doj investigates and prosecutes voter fraud. They have a dedicated division for these matters.
You refuse to answer why Trump wouldn’t or couldn’t get them to do so and why his impotence in this critical matter should earn him the nomination.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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Damn. He may be signaling the death of his national profile with this decision
what part of "if Trump doesn't run" don't you get?
74 million voted for the guy and a substantial number still love him.
No way to win a primary (much less a general) pissing off 50+ million whi will see you as preventing the remedying of a wrong in 2020.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:00 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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DeSantis’s calculus is that, at age 44, he can easily wait until the next presidential cycle, so why risk a brutal primary fight against a pugilist like Trump? “He can walk into the presidency in 2028 without pissing off Trump or Florida,” the source said.
Oh look, a pragmatic approach. 4 years of Trump and 8 years of Ron should fix things
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:02 am to Adam Banks
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Adam Banks
I believe this is the 4th time. I will try again:
Senate Votes to Ban Unsecured Ballot Drop Boxes and ...
LINK › blog › senate-votes-to-...
Apr 13, 2022
Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules incorrectly dated or undated ballots must be set aside.
U.S. Supreme Court reverses Pennsylvania mail voting law decision
Should I continue with other states, or would you like to look for yourself?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:04 am to Jjdoc
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I believe this is the 4th time. I will try again: Senate Votes to Ban Unsecured Ballot Drop Boxes and ... LINK › blog › senate-votes-to-... Apr 13, 2022 Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules incorrectly dated or undated ballots must be set aside. U.S. Supreme Court reverses Pennsylvania mail voting law decision Should I continue with other states, or would you like to look for yourself?
You continue to avoid the question.
Why couldn’t Trump get his own DOJ to investigate election fraud with its election fraud division and prosecute the perpetrators?
I want the people who commuted fraud in jail. You don’t.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:05 am to udtiger
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No way to win a primary (much less a general) pissing off 50+ million whi will see you as preventing the remedying of a wrong in 2020.
You think it's 50 million?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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Unless something magical happens, he would need Trump to run and lose in 2024. If Trump wins in 2024 it's almost a guarantee a DEM wins in 2028. Would RDS risk trying to unseat an incumbent in 2032? If not, then we're talking 2036. That's 14 years away and he's term-limited in Florida as governor.
Polls show Trump having a huge lead over Ron in a primary. Ron risks Trump doing what he does and destroying him if he goes hard at Trump. Trumps hardcore base likes Ron as a 2nd option but if Ron tries to hurt Trump they’ll hate him. If he is the conservative but non establishment option that avoids Trump but goes after the rest he will come in 2nd to Trump with about 30-40%. It’s a no win situation and it’s better to wait.
Desantis only chance in 2024 is if Trump doesn’t run again
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:06 am to udtiger
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No way to win a primary (much less a general) pissing off 50+ million
Way high.
The Trump faction of the GOP doesn't control 2/3 of the population
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:06 am to Adam Banks
How do you get on a primary ballot? Ron could wait in the weeds and see how Iowa and other early states play out before jumping in and winning Florida. If Trump implodes early for whatever reason there is a path.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:07 am to deltaland
What happens when Trump is indicted for something?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:09 am to Adam Banks
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All you have said is the federal government can’t do anything about voter fraud which is wrong.
That's not what I stated. In context you are asserting that Trump could have done something to alter the outcome of the election using the Federal Gov.
I pointed out that he could not have. That's why teams of people were put together to go to work in states to get very detailed information so it could be addressed.
Only a state could have stepped up and halted anything.
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You refuse to answer why Trump wouldn’t or couldn’t get them to do so and why his impotence in this critical matter should earn him the nomination.
Wrong. Wrong ... Wrong. Again, you assertion is that Trump did not act to keep him in the WH.
So again, Trump took the route that was there for him.
- No court would touch it because the nation was on edge. Right or wrong isn't the point. The point is they did not.
- That has been cured at this point. Courts are ruling because the nation is not on edge.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:11 am to deltaland
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Desantis only chance in 2024 is if Trump doesn’t run again
DeSantis is a tough spot because the only way to beat Trump is to go hard at him. If you hit Trump, his m.o. is to hit you back twice as hard. Trump has no problem getting in the gutter if that is what it takes. So it will get real ugly real fast and even if DeSantis beats him fair and square he risks alienating the MAGA base who like DeSantis but are firmly dedicated to Trump.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:13 am to Jjdoc
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That's not what I stated. In context you are asserting that Trump could have done something to alter the outcome of the election using the Federal Gov. I pointed out that he could not have. That's why teams of people were put together to go to work in states to get very detailed information so it could be addressed.
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LINK Trump was over the DOJ The DOJ investigates and prosecutes voter fraud And does not change an outcome. That's on the states.
So your assertion is that prosecuting and imprisoning of perpetrators of fraud doesn’t matter. Got it.
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Wrong. Wrong ... Wrong. Again, you assertion is that Trump did not act to keep him in the WH. So again, Trump took the route that was there for him. - No court would touch it because the nation was on edge. Right or wrong isn't the point. The point is they did not.
So you don’t want criminals put in jail for crimes.
Got it.
Thanks for proving it.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:13 am to deltaland
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Polls show Trump having a huge lead over Ron in a primary.
We always trust polls.
Trumpites are hardcore anti (anyone) that Trump doesn't endorse. Until he's gone from the scene and his loyalists drop their right wing progressivism, democrats will continue their reign of terror.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
We have cultists arguing that perpetrators of election fraud should not be investigated for crimes because trump didn’t do it therefore it couldn’t have been the right course of action.
TDS at its finest
TDS at its finest
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Damn. He may be signaling the death of his national profile with this decision.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:17 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
this prevents any trump supporters being negative about him.
desantis knows that if trump is in jail or house arrest he's not running. some of the possible charges' sentences would include not ever holding federal office again. your seditious conspiracy would for example.
probably espionage for liars poker about docs in his office does too.
if that happens the flood of trial balloons will fill the airwaves.
desantis knows that if trump is in jail or house arrest he's not running. some of the possible charges' sentences would include not ever holding federal office again. your seditious conspiracy would for example.
probably espionage for liars poker about docs in his office does too.
if that happens the flood of trial balloons will fill the airwaves.
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