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re: DeSantis people, did the 2020 election have fraud?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:05 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:05 pm to Vacherie Saint
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If nothing is done, we still lose.
I think it’s more accurate to say that if nothing is done we’re still at a disadvantage. And I think some things have been done; I know Georgia has made it more difficult for them to replicate 2020.
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:07 pm to blueboxer1119
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How bout stop deflecting
I answered your question straight up a couple posts earlier. Read.
Why won't you answer what I posed? It's not some attempt at a gotcha like your whole thread premise here
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:22 pm to David_DJS
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I don't think this is a defense of Trump getting it wrong.
I do. You would think that you could have some level of trust in your own party. Lastly, whomever HE may have chosen would still have to been approved by those very same Republicans. He went with his only realistic option, to trust the party. He got fricked. As noted previously, hindsight is 2020.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:27 pm to blueboxer1119
Absolutely not. Trump barely won the 2016 election by the smallest of margins so not sure why you unhinged Trumpkins think the democrats had to cheat.
Get your head out of your arse!
Get your head out of your arse!
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:31 pm to RazorBroncs
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Read
I missed the part where you explained what DeSantis has done to prevent this from happening again.
Where did you post that?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:41 pm to RazorBroncs
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Do you think Trump did himself any favors towards reelection in 2020?
Yes - he fought back.
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Do you think he did anything to combat the rabid-like drive of the Dems to get him out of office?
You mean, other than fight back?
And it wasn’t just the Dems. A duck load of “Conservatives” had their knives out as well.
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Did he do anything to sway independents over to his side in order to have a blowout win that even the Dems couldn't steal?
2020 was going to end in a Trump loss. If it took 200 million people “voting” to do it, he was out. The end.
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What has he changed since then that would suggest the exact same scenario wouldn't unfold in 2024?
Some people that didn’t vote for Trump last time may actually do so this time as, despite what the fricktards say, people are becoming aware that some major frickery took place.
I’m voting for the Republican nominee, whomever that is.
Nonetheless, I have ZERO faith in the election process. For now, however, hope for legitimacy is all that we have.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:41 pm to CapperVin
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democrats had to cheat.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:53 pm to blueboxer1119
No matter how convinced I am there was absolutely fraud committed, until SOMEONE with a set of balls willing to ease through the FBI with a chainsaw and fire everyone unwilling to investigate it nothing will happen and it’ll happen again and again.
Who can actually articulate a discussion on the subject? It’s not Trump. I know it, you know it and Trump won’t clean house. He’ll be too busy bitching about the wrong things.
Having said that, I’ll enthusiastically vote for Trump if he’s the nominee, as virtually any Republican is better than the alternative.
Who can actually articulate a discussion on the subject? It’s not Trump. I know it, you know it and Trump won’t clean house. He’ll be too busy bitching about the wrong things.
Having said that, I’ll enthusiastically vote for Trump if he’s the nominee, as virtually any Republican is better than the alternative.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:03 pm to jimmy the leg
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You would think that you could have some level of trust in your own party.
Why? Didn't he spend his 2016 campaign throwing fire at permanent Washington, and the GOPe in particular? Why would he think he could trust the GOPe after taking office?
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He got fricked
Yeah. My point is he shouldn't have made himself so easily fricked.
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As noted previously, hindsight is 2020.
You can note it, but that doesn't make it actual hindsight. Like with Covid not being the virus we were promised it was, it was known 2017-2020 what establishment Republicans were all about. Trump himself campaigned about it in 2016.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:07 pm to llfshoals
Right. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. The FBI probably could have squeezed Ruby Freeman in Georgia and whoever brought in ballots in Detroit and solved whatever happened in two weeks. But, the FBI protects the regime. There is almost no mechanism to fix a rigged election after the fact. You just have to try to tighten things up before, but it may be impossible to stop cheating for the foreseeable future.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:10 pm to blueboxer1119
Of course not.
Only brain dead, uneducated Trump cultist (like 90% of the Trumpers here), believe that shite. You understand a lot of us just never voted for him again - and never will again.
He has destroyed conservatism and my beloved party.
Only brain dead, uneducated Trump cultist (like 90% of the Trumpers here), believe that shite. You understand a lot of us just never voted for him again - and never will again.
He has destroyed conservatism and my beloved party.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:13 pm to David_DJS
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Yeah. My point is he shouldn't have made himself so easily fricked.
By attacking the GOPe? That is a Dems wet dream. Pass.
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Like with Covid not being the virus we were promised it was
There were VERY FEW people nationally saying this that weren’t vilified by the WHO, CDC, NIH, legacy press, and social media. And despite you saying that there were tons ohms people on TD saying that Covid wasn’t much, the reality is that those people were largely mocked. YOU, me, and a handful of others may have said differently, but not most (not even close to half).
Could DJT have done things better, absolutely. Should he have…at times - yes. Nonetheless, I won’t judge without context. Trump is a flawed candidate in some regards (they all are), but to me - I’m going to attempt to judge his merits based off of real time decisions, not hindsight.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:15 pm to CapperVin
The Dems have cheated in state and local elections. We just didn't know it would be on the federal level until 2020. Hell they cheated Bush junior back in 2000 when they tried to take Florida for Gore.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:17 pm to Bham4Tide
The GOP was dead before Trump entered 2016.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:23 pm to jimmy the leg
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y attacking the GOPe? That is a Dems wet dream. Pass.
What do you mean here?
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There were VERY FEW people nationally saying this that weren’t vilified by the WHO, CDC, NIH, legacy press, and social media.
So?
There are very few people nationally saying 6 yo boys can be girls, and you're vilified when you say otherwise. Doesn't mean rational people don't know 6 yo boys can't be girls.
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I’m going to attempt to judge his merits based off of real time decisions, not hindsight.
There was solid information in the public domain that would have led a skeptical DT to look outside of the CDC for answers.
In 2020, after a couple decades of lies/distortions from the Left/media/big gov't about nearly everything that mattered, why would anyone think Covid wasn't just the next Russia Russia Russia?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:33 pm to Gifman
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The judges that were all scared shitless? They didn’t want to go near these cases.
Sure pal
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:36 pm to David_DJS
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There are very few people nationally saying 6 yo boys can be girls, and you're vilified when you say otherwise.
Really?
And this pales in comparison to the Covid hysteria.
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What do you mean here?
Either work with them, or attack them. He chose to work with them.
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why would anyone think Covid wasn't just the next Russia Russia Russia?
Why are you assuming that they wouldn’t. Hell, some people STILL believe in RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA.
Besides, most people were blissfully ignorant of the depth of the DC corruption. Now…some are aware.
Will they be enough to tip the scales…I hope so. However, FJB will have his thumb on the scale, so who knows.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:41 pm to jimmy the leg
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Either work with them, or attack them. He chose to work with them.
Problem is he did both. He attacked throughout his campaign, then oddly turned to them to make his administration run.
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Hell, some people STILL believe in RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA.
Yeah, and what do we think of them?
Seriously, anybody not a Leftist should have seen in real time what was happening with Covid.
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However, FJB will have his thumb on the scale, so who knows.
I think we need to be careful to not let this become a crutch or excuse.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:43 pm to blueboxer1119
Nah no fraud. Counties typically have 110% turnout.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:44 pm to idlewatcher
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Counties typically have 110% turnout.
Link?
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