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re: Dershowitz says it was a clear attempt at a coup

Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:06 am to
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16957 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:06 am to
Sounds like it's time for some short drops and sudden stops.

Obama and Hillary should be first in line
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:10 am to
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He committed a major crime and is admitting it on national television.
No.

Again, “examining the options” is not a crime. If he HAD improperly organized a majority of the Cabinet and assisted the VP in seizing power, THEN he would have arguably committed a crime.

By analogy, do you think a person commits a crime by thinking “I could make a lot of money by spying for China,” if they never ACTUALLY spy for China?
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35460 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:13 am to
Once you start counting heads you’re no longer examining your options.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120091 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:13 am to
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political purposes would have been entirely improper.


Improper? Is that how you would really describe fraudulently invoking the 25th to subvert the electoral process?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93706 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:14 am to
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Third, some people DID express some concern that Trump was mentally unbalanced, even if I disagree. If the VP and the Cabinet AGREED that he was mentally unstable and so-reported to Congress .


Good grief Liberal Hank

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Fourth, it would NOT be “treason” for federal officials to examine the options, if they observe irrational (and arguably psychotic) behavior in a POTUS



Amazing ho you expose yourself and never come clean

Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:16 am to
You realize these are the same FBI people that used fake info to obtain FISA warrants, lied to judges, lied to Congress, leaked to the press, worked with foreign spies paid for by Hillary, covered up for Hillary's crimes, and illegally spied on a Presidential campaign?

McCabe and others should go to prison for that alone, never mind that they tried to attempt a coup against a sitting President
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35460 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:19 am to
I don’t think it rises to the level of treason but it seems like it’s absolutely conspiracy against the United States.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4751 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:23 am to
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No. Again, “examining the options” is not a crime


Please show me where in the FBIs charter or the US Constitution does it state that it is the FBIs job to have anything to do with the POTUS’ fitness for duty?

The fbi exists to investigate crime. Mental capacity is not a crime. Discussing removing the potus using the 25th amendment is conspiracy....period

Your analysis of the situation is totally off base.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22257 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:23 am to
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Fourth, it would NOT be “treason” for federal officials to examine the options, if they observe irrational (and arguably psychotic) behavior in a POTUS ... especially if they determine that the 25th is NOT applicable.


It would be if this were the means of simply removing the man from office for purposes of a bloodless coup.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4751 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:25 am to
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I don’t think it rises to the level of treason


Not at the FBI
Level, but when you add Brennan, Clapper, Yates, Clinton, Obama...it sure as Shiite does
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:29 am to
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Please show me where in the FBIs charter or the US Constitution does it state that it is the FBIs job to have anything to do with the POTUS’ fitness for duty?
It is not. That does not make it a crime.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62602 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:33 am to
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Please show me where in the FBIs charter or the US Constitution does it state that it is the FBIs job to have anything to do with the POTUS’ fitness for duty?
This. It doesn't exist. The FBI has no such responsibility. Further the 25th amendment is not an election "Do Over" provision.

McCabe and other's actions are indefensible.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62065 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:56 am to
When you consider what McCabe admitted, and consider the fact that he's clearly putting this out there for his best interest, a logical mind must wonder what he's hiding.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20593 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:13 am to
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46200 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:23 am to
“examining options” is fbi and DOJ officials rounding up support to unseat the duly elected potus while recording his conversations?

You are a massive assbag.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 9:24 am
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:24 am to
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We need to arrest, try, and execute some traitors.

let's form a militia and do it.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
13005 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:31 am to
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Not apparently enough. I've seen no indictments. You know of any?


Mueller/SC...honest bob, has done a great investigation that is letting the evidence take him to the truth. But for some reason, we are seeing BS indictments and people with in the govt that committed treason and attempted coup, have not been investigated by him...interesting..but very apparent no bias or politically motivated SC investigation

If the shoe were on the other foot, Dems/SC mueller would have 50% of Republican govt employees and officials indicted and behind bars! GOP would be officially destroyed.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 9:36 am
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3576 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:33 am to
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By analogy, do you think a person commits a crime by thinking “I could make a lot of money by spying for China,” if they never ACTUALLY spy for China?


This analogy isn't really analogous, is it? McCabe, by his own admission, did more than entertain private thoughts. He took steps. He met with others. There were discussions. Don't get me wrong - I'm not CERTAIN that a crime was committed. However, context matters: what McCabe has admitted has to be considered in the context of other revelations about activity in which he (and others) were involved.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65382 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:34 am to
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By analogy, do you think a person commits a crime by thinking “I could make a lot of money by spying for China,” if they never ACTUALLY spy for China?


People get arrested for thought crimes all the time in the US...do you pay any attention at all to the news? Trump’s people have been arrested for them.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:00 am to
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People get arrested for thought crimes all the time in the US...do you pay any attention at all to the news? Trump’s people have been arrested for them.
I'm not sure about that. You have an example where a Trump person has been arrested for a thought crime?
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