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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:13 pm to TigerIn2023
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:13 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:
I’ll wait.
quote:In addition to Fentanyl >3.5X those lethal levels @ 11 ng/ml, Floyd also had active metabolites of morphine, amphetamine, and pot in circulation.
Any Fentanyl concentration >3 ng/ml in an individual ... the death will be attributed to the Fentanyl (and other drugs) detected.
LINK
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:16 pm to NC_Tigah
You mean those numbers in the autopsy meant stuff?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:17 pm to NC_Tigah
As convincing as your link to a document to an irrelevant case is…
“There is no such thing as a ‘fatal drug concentration’ because many other factors must be considered beyond the postmortem drug concentration,” Lin said. “An important concept in cause of death determination is that multiple potential causes may be present and it is the job of the certifying medical examiner to sort through those potential causes and choose a primary cause and/or multiple contributory causes.”
“There is no such thing as a ‘fatal drug concentration’ because many other factors must be considered beyond the postmortem drug concentration,” Lin said. “An important concept in cause of death determination is that multiple potential causes may be present and it is the job of the certifying medical examiner to sort through those potential causes and choose a primary cause and/or multiple contributory causes.”
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:18 pm to TigerIn2023
Right. The coroner’s subjective judgment. We’re all on the same page now.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:21 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:That is a scientifically and medically retarded statement.
There is no such thing as a ‘fatal drug concentration’
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:22 pm to the808bass
quote:I can assume certain opinions of yours just by the fact that you’re arguing
You don’t even know what my opinion is on his death.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:23 pm to TigerIn2023
Would Floyd have died if he hadn’t encountered Chauvin?
Probably not.
Would a sober individual have died if he had been handled in same manner as Chauvin did Floyd?
Most definitely not.
Drugs caused the death.
Probably not.
Would a sober individual have died if he had been handled in same manner as Chauvin did Floyd?
Most definitely not.
Drugs caused the death.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:24 pm to the808bass
quote:
The coroner’s subjective judgment.
And the jury’s. Which is why Chauvin is a convicted murderer.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:26 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
That is a scientifically and medically retarded statement.
Yet even your source states “Understanding that every person is different”.
Do you normally cite sources with conclusions you believe to be “medically retarded” to back up your claims?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:26 pm to TigerIn2023
And the jury’s. Which is why Chauvin is a convicted murderer.
Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:29 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:
And the jury’s. Which is why Chauvin is a convicted murderer.
Yes. Sometimes the justice system is imperfect. Film at 11. You don’t get morality points for believing a subjective judgment of the coroner. You’re not a better person. You’re just telling yourself that.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:30 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:No. No need. It's an imbecilic statement. If I inject you with a mg of Fentanyl, then walk away, you're a dead man.
Do you normally cite sources with conclusions you believe to be “medically retarded” to back up your claims?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I can assume certain opinions of yours just by the fact that you’re arguing
But you’re probably wrong.
I wouldn’t have a problem with a conviction against Chauvin. I think he acted callously. The department also provided training to mitigate restraint/compression asphyxiation occurrences.
The rush to make him into a racist murderer is dumb and ignores a multitude of facts. Furthermore, it’s obvious Floyd contributed to his own death.
Also, the police chief who testified that Chauvin wasn’t taught that restraint technique was an obvious lie.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:35 pm to MemphisGuy
quote:
A fentanyl addicted worthless piece of shite (and that might be an insult to pieces of shite)with not ONE single redeeming quality.. NOT ONE... is now a "Saint" in your book? I feel genuine sorrow for you and your misguided beliefs.
Dude anyone that calls him St. George is doing it with the most obvious levels of sarcasm
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:36 pm to NC_Tigah
Wait… you think that the author of a study on the Reliability of Postmortem Fentanyl Concentrations in Determining the Cause of Death is stating that drug overdoses don’t exist?
LOLOLOLOL
LOLOLOLOL
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:37 pm to the808bass
quote:All true.
I wouldn’t have a problem with a conviction against Chauvin. I think he acted callously. The department also provided training to mitigate restraint/compression asphyxiation occurrences.
The rush to make him into a racist murderer is dumb and ignores a multitude of facts. Furthermore, it’s obvious Floyd contributed to his own death.
Also, the police chief who testified that Chauvin wasn’t taught that restraint technique was an obvious lie.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:39 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:I think you are way out of your depth.
Wait… you think...
I think the idiot's idiotic statement speaks for itself.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:44 pm to NC_Tigah
Shoot! I guess we have arrived back at “I should ignore the professional who previously worked for the New York City chief medical examiner’s office and co-authored a study on the reliability of postmortem fentanyl levels and instead believe the poster on an LSU sports message board with nothing to back up their claims other than ‘I don’t want to believe this so he’s wrong.’”
I don’t even know who I should believe now!
I don’t even know who I should believe now!
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:48 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:
Yet even your source states “Understanding that every person is different”.
I don't think you understand how powerful, Fentanyl is.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:49 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:Do you know what transdermal fentanyl is? Are you familiar with opiate derived respiratory depression? Are you familiar with fentanyl induced chest wall rigidity?
Shoot! I guess we have arrived back at “I should ignore the professional who previously worked for the New York City chief medical examiner’s office and co-authored a study on the reliability of postmortem fentanyl levels
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