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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison

Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:51 pm to
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:51 pm to
Judge Peter Cahill set aside three weeks for jury selection, and the court used a larger than usual pool of prospective jurors – about 326 people.

Typically, defense attorneys in similar cases get five “peremptory” strikes, while prosecutors receive three, according to the Associated Press. In Chauvin’s case, defense attorneys were given 15 strikes compared with nine for prosecutors.

“It shows the judge bent over backwards to give the defense more opportunities to exclude potentially bad jurors even if the juror didn’t meet the technical criteria for a challenge,” said Ron Sullivan, a professor at Harvard Law.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14658 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:55 pm to
If literally all 326 are biased against you and you get to strike 15... well... that still doesn't bode very well for you, now does it?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20196 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:57 pm to
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Not according to a jury of his peers.


Wrong peers.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35923 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:57 pm to
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“It shows the judge bent over backwards to give the defense more opportunities to exclude potentially bad jurors even if the juror didn’t meet the technical criteria for a challenge,” said Ron Sullivan, a professor at Harvard Law.


Now why would it be necessary for the judge to do this I wonder?

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35923 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 3:58 pm to
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literally all 326 are biased against you and you get to strike 15... well... that still doesn't bode very well for you, now does it?


Yeah, he’s not helping his case. Lol.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:02 pm to
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literally all 326 are biased


Well that’s a rather absurd claim. Surely you have something to cite which backs that up.

I’ll wait…
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:04 pm to
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You CHOSE a name that translates to "naked child"....explain that....


When in typed gymnopedies in google, I got this as the first result:

quote:

Gymnopédie
Composition by Erik Satie

The Gymnopédies, or Trois Gymnopédies, are three piano compositions written by French composer and pianist Erik Satie. He completed the whole set by 2 April 1888, but they were at first published individually: the first and the third in 1888, the second in 1895. Wikipedia




This is so stupid. Of all the things to fixate on…
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Cubbs and I don’t see eye to eye on many things, but she isn’t an activist. She is good people.



idk what happened to Roger. He used to be cool.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:28 pm to
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Which would have never occurred had he not taken too much Fentanyl and resisted arrest.


This is consistent even with the family’s third-party autopsy.

Restraint asphyxiation resulting in death without comorbid health conditions and drug use are extremely rare. In other words, you usually have to have a combination of health issues, plus drug use, plus resisting arrest in order to get to a restraint asphyxiation-related death.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Restraint asphyxiation resulting in death without comorbid health conditions and drug use are extremely rare


But he died. So who care if others did not? The excessive force caused his untimely death.

If someone dying of cancer gets shot in the head, it’s still murder.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138866 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:41 pm to
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The excessive force caused his untimely death.
It didn't. Opiate and mixed toxicity killed Floyd.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:42 pm to
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This is consistent even with the family’s third-party autopsy.


The county medical investigator concluded that it was a homicide due to “cardiopulmonary arrest” from “law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138866 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:44 pm to
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The county medical investigator
The county medical investigator lied.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:45 pm to
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Arteriosclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe B. Hypertensive heart disease 1. Cardiomegaly (540 g) with mild biventricular dilatation 2. Clinical history of hypertension


quote:

III. No life-threatening injuries identified A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma

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VI. Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at 9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine) A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens: 1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL 2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL 3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL 4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL 5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL; Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL 6. Cotinine positive 7. Caffeine positive

You forgot to quote some stuff.

Also, pretty much what I said.

Heavy drug use.
Bunch of comorbidities.
Resisting arrest.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:47 pm to
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It didn't. Opiate and mixed toxicity killed Floyd.
the autopsy disagrees. The jury disagrees.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:48 pm to
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The excessive force caused his untimely death. If someone dying of cancer gets shot in the head, it’s still murder.


That’s not the analogy, though. If the police are chasing someone, and they collapse from exertion, are the police responsible for them collapsing from over-exertion?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:48 pm to
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the autopsy disagrees. The jury disagrees.


The autopsy kinda agrees. All except for the finding. The data completely agrees.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:50 pm to
The conclusion completely disagrees.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 4:51 pm to
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. If the police are chasing someone, and they collapse from exertion, are the police responsible for them collapsing from over-exertion?
in this scenario, the police did not lay hands on the suspect.
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