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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:51 pm to TigerIn2023
Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:51 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:I do. But that's for you to figure out, hotshot.
I don’t even know who I should believe now!
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:54 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Do you know what transdermal fentanyl is? Are you familiar with opiate derived respiratory depression? Are you familiar with fentanyl induced chest wall rigidity?
Do you think the professional who previously worked for the New York City chief medical examiner’s office and co-authored a study on the reliability of postmortem fentanyl levels doesn’t know what transdermal fentanyl is, isn’t familiar with opiate derived respiratory depression, or isn’t familiar with fentanyl induced chest wall rigidity? Because that’s whose opinion you’re arguing with. Not mine.
Maybe reach out to him directly sweetheart. I really doubt that Dr. Peter Lin posts here.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:09 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:Does he know what transdermal fentanyl is? Yes, he does. It was the subject of the study you quoted, which happens to have zero to do with the Floyd case. That's why you were asked the question.
Do you think the professional who previously worked for the New York City chief medical examiner’s office and co-authored a study on the reliability of postmortem fentanyl levels doesn’t know what transdermal fentanyl is, isn’t familiar with opiate derived respiratory depression, or isn’t familiar with fentanyl induced chest wall rigidity?
Is he familiar with opiate derived respiratory depression? Perhaps incompletely so.
Is he familiar w/ FICWR? Not likely.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:23 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
It was the subject of the study you quoted, which happens to have zero to do with the Floyd case.
I never said it did sweetheart. I was simply pointing out how he is more than qualified to offer an opinion on Postmortem Fentanyl Concentrations in Determining the Cause of Death and why I would trust his opinion over some random user on an LSU sports message board with nothing to back up their claims.
I’m sure you understand.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:29 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Daddy's back sweet cheeks, miss me??
id your stewedmeat act finally get banned and now on to this act?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:33 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:
I never said it did sweetheart. I was simply pointing out how he is more than qualified to offer an opinion on Postmortem Fentanyl Concentrations in Determining the Cause of Death and why I would trust his opinion over some random user on an LSU sports message board with nothing to back up their claims.
I always view with suspicion doctors who are employees of the state when they are commenting conclusively on specific cases in which they weren’t directly involved.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:41 pm to the808bass
quote:
I always view with suspicion doctors who are employees of the state when they are commenting conclusively on specific cases in which they weren’t directly involved.
Dr. Lin’s comment was:
“To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone based only on a drug concentration of 11 ng/ml, and to ignore the neck compression entirely, would stretch the bounds of credulity”
This is not commenting conclusively on the case.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:42 pm to TigerIn2023
Fair enough. He pointed out it’s a subjective judgment. And we’re back to where I started.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:43 pm to the808bass
quote:
I always view with suspicion doctors who are employees of the state when they are commenting conclusively on specific cases in which they weren’t directly involved.
He actually didn’t say anything conclusive, despite the claims of the other poster.
“whether the fentanyl could have been considered a contributory cause to the compression is a reasonable point of debate, since both neck compression and fentanyl would cause respiratory difficulty,”
“To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone based only on a drug concentration of 11 ng/ml, and to ignore the neck compression entirely, would stretch the bounds of credulity,” Lin said.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:43 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:So you quoted it in a Derek Chauvin thread because you knew it had nothing whatsoever to do with the thread.
I never said it did sweetheart.
quote:Than who?
he is more than qualified to offer an opinion on Postmortem Fentanyl Concentrations in Determining the Cause of Death
quote:I do. At some point you may too.
I’m sure you understand.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:44 pm to the808bass
quote:So basically it has to fit your narrative or bust huh, lol got it "baw"
I always view with suspicion doctors who are employees of the state when they are commenting conclusively on specific cases in which they weren’t directly involved.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:44 pm to StewedMeat
Sup, trolling alter motherfricker?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:48 pm to the808bass
quote:
He pointed out it’s a subjective judgment.
Not sure who the “he” is you’re referring to. But there are irrefutable facts regarding this case that are not objective. Here are a couple.
Derek Chauvin is a convicted murderer.
A jury of Mr. Chauvin’s peers found beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Chauvin murdered George Floydd.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:49 pm to Robin Masters
quote:Again, that is a nonsensical statement. Fentanyl was in no way "a contributory cause to the compression." It caused respiratory suppression. There was no basis for presumptive neck compression. None.
whether the fentanyl could have been considered a contributory cause to the compression is a reasonable point of debate
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:52 pm to TigerIn2023
You are still arguing on the basis that your view is more moral. Which is ironic because you probably don’t believe in objective morality. I’ll let you try to stew on that.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:52 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Again, that is a nonsensical statement. Fentanyl was in no way "a contributory cause to the compression." It caused respiratory suppression. There was no basis for presumptive neck compression. None.
You’re right. That makes no sense. Wonder if he misspoke or was misquoted?
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:54 pm to the808bass
quote:
You are still arguing on the basis that your view is more moral. Which is ironic because you probably don’t believe in objective morality. I’ll let you try to stew on that.
Morality is determined by 12 people too dumb to get out of jury duty in reasonable fear for their lives if they return an unfashionable verdict.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:55 pm to Robin Masters
quote:This is such a dumb take.
by 12 people too dumb to get out of jury duty
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:55 pm to TigerIn2023
quote:and OJ is innocent as an angel.
Derek Chauvin is a convicted murderer.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:59 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Than who?
Just to be 100% clear, you honestly believe I should take the opinion of a random user on a LSU sports message board over a Forensic Pathologist for the Mayo Clinic?
LOLOLOL
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