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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison

Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:04 pm to
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and OJ is innocent as an angel.


OJ is innocent until found guilty by a jury of his peers. Chauvin was found guilty by a jury of his peers.

We don’t throw out the basis of the entire judicial system our founding fathers built for this country based solely on “the OJ case got it wrong”. It does not mean then that every jury gets every case wrong. Nor is it evidence that Derek Chauvin’s jury did got it wrong.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:04 pm to
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This is such a dumb take.


It’s an old joke.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14808 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:04 pm to
It’s the PT board. What do you expect? They probably think there is a Mustard clinic too.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:06 pm to
If by any chance some are surprised by this - even disappointed - obviously haven't had the distinct honor of having experienced the cultural enrichment that comes with listening to our local stations WBOK and WYLD.

Have had an urge to turn it on about this story, but am not interested in hearing them whoopin' and hollerin' over it like banshees.

It would be the same if something similar happened to Trump.

Talk about a load of academic social theories that we've been pounded with by the propaganda mills, government, and media that have always been tenuously held, but now are on the verge of going by the wayside.

Way too late for "we-told-you-so's."

If anyone for what ever reason doesn't believe that there's a slowly developing attitude among cops to just let them do what ever they want.

"We'll just show up later, put crime scene tape around the site, give it an Item Number, fill out a report, and wait for the next one."

Again, WBOK and WYLD for the woefully naive.


We're at a time when it makes more sense to protect oneself anyway.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:09 pm to
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Just to be 100% clear, you honestly believe I should take the opinion of a random user on a LSU sports message board over a Forensic Pathologist for the Mayo Clinic?
No hotshot, I'd expect you to be just as lost as you are. You had no idea WTF the significance of TDF was. You have no clue as to the dubious nature of comments attributable to your guy, and you have no idea with whom you're conversing. So factually, I couldn't care less whose opinion you take.

However, when you voice your own opinion, and do it in contradiction to science or fact in this forum, you'll get called on it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:13 pm to
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t does not mean then that every jury gets every case wrong.
NO!
It means every jury does not get it right.

You cited the jury verdict as if it spoke definitively to the underlying truths of the Floyd case.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:15 pm to
So taking the opinion of a Forensic Pathologist for the Mayo Clinic over some random user on a LSU sports message board is now a “contradiction to science or fact in this forum”.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:17 pm
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:18 pm to
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You cited the jury verdict as if it spoke definitively to the underlying truths of the Floyd case.


… says the user who cited the jury verdict of OJ Simpson as if it spoke definitively to the bias of the Derek Chauvin jury.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:20 pm to
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says the user who cited the jury verdict of OJ Simpson as if it spoke definitively to the bias of the Derek Chauvin jury.



Who cited which jury first?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:24 pm to
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So taking the opinion of a Forensic Pathologist for the Mayo Clinic over some random user on a LSU sports message board is now a “contradiction to science or fact in this forum”.
No.
We are talking about your posts, not whose opinions you "take."

Did "a Forensic Pathologist for the Mayo Clinic" cite a TDF study relative to the Floyd case?

No?

Yet you did. That is the sort of thing we're addressing.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:26 pm to
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… says the user who cited the jury verdict of OJ Simpson as if it spoke definitively to the bias of the Derek Chauvin jury.

You're struggling here, but I'd bet you're starting to get it. :wink:
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:28 pm to
Literally every post of yours is text book example of Appeal To Authority fallacy which is covered in the first 10 pages of “How (not) to Debate For Dummies”.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:29 pm to
TIL that an article from Reuters is a TDF study. That’s news to me!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138878 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:31 pm to
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TIL that an article from Reuters
English?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:32 pm to
Are you referring to where I stated it was an irrefutable fact that Derek Chauvin is a convicted murderer and that a jury of Mr. Chauvin’s peers found beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Chauvin murdered George Floydd?

I would LOVE to see your argument for how either of those could possibly not be true.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:33 pm to
This happens to inmates every day. Why do you want convicted agents of the government to be treated any better?

Floyd and Chauvin are both scum and if Chauvin joins him on the wrong side of the ground, no tears will be shed.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28110 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:35 pm to
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I would LOVE to see your argument for how either of those could possibly not be true.


So you're not bright enough to understand people aren't arguing that those are the facts of the matter, they're arguing that the justice system isn't infallible and this was an extremely unique case where politics was heavily involved.

Or, you are that bright, but don't want people bringing that up because you'd rather them just accept your stance on this issue.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:39 pm to
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you're not bright enough to understand people aren't arguing that those are the facts of the matter, they're arguing that the justice system isn't infallible and this was an extremely unique case where politics was heavily involved. Or, you are that bright, but don't want people bringing that up because you'd rather them just accept your stance on this is


He’s just going to link an article that the jury found Chauvin guilty. He doesn’t know how to think. He’s an obvious product of modern prog indoctrination which only educates you in what to think.

If he were falsely accused and found guilty his head might literally explode.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:40 pm to
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they're arguing that the justice system isn't infallible and this was an extremely unique case where politics was heavily involved.


Of course it isn't infallible. I'm just wondering what's got you so hot and bothered with Chauvin. I bet you didn't have any sympathy for Ray Hinton. An innocent man who sat on death row in Alabama for over 30 years. The arresting officer told him "maybe you didn't do it, so just consider it taking one for your bro". He was railroaded at every turn and the state refused compensation when he was exonerated. Why do you have so much love for government agents?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:42 pm to
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that the justice system isn’t infallible and this was an extremely unique case where politics was heavily involved.


I never claimed the justice system was infallible. However, that doesn’t mean that every case that ends in a judgement I disagree with is evidence the jury was politically or otherwise biased.
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