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Dems confirm they will vote to remove McCarthy. Rs seem to have the 5 votes needed
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:10 pm
Jeffries says house democrats will vote yes on McCarthy ouster
McCarthy knows he's out
quote:
MCCARTHY: “No. If five Republicans go with Democrats, then I'm out.”
REPORTER: “Sounds likely.”
MCCARTHY: “Probably so.”
McCarthy knows he's out
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:11 pm to stout
LFG!!!!
BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:13 pm to stout
quote:
MCCARTHY: “No. If five Republicans go with Democrats, then I'm out.”
REPORTER: “Sounds likely.”
MCCARTHY: “Probably so.”
fricking good.
Someone needs to hold people accountable if they agree on items and then proceed to not get them done.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:14 pm to stout
Any idea who the next Speaker might be?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:15 pm to stout
Oh wow. I did not expect that.
I'm curious what the DEM strategy/plan is, here
I'm curious what the DEM strategy/plan is, here
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:15 pm to LSUAlum2001
KM promised to repeal the 87K IRS agents as his first fight as speaker
That was part of the negotiation for Gaetz and others backing him
He has done nothing but side with Dems since then. Just broken promise and broken promise
That was part of the negotiation for Gaetz and others backing him
He has done nothing but side with Dems since then. Just broken promise and broken promise
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:15 pm to Figgy
Make it Owen Shoyer
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:16 pm to stout
Let's hope the next guy will stand for what's right and not play the fricking DC game.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:18 pm to stout
I don’t buy this one bit. While I can’t fricking stand McCarthy this motion to vacate was really dumb. The Dems are fricking liars. They have the opportunity to “bail” him out at the last minute while getting shite they want. Like us losing subpoena powers, committee spots, etc.
So the risk is we still get McCarthy, but with him being beholden to the Dems.
I hope I’m wrong, but no way in my mind this is just an easy vacate and we get a new speaker that doesn’t suck as bad as what we already have.
It’s a gamble.
So the risk is we still get McCarthy, but with him being beholden to the Dems.
I hope I’m wrong, but no way in my mind this is just an easy vacate and we get a new speaker that doesn’t suck as bad as what we already have.
It’s a gamble.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I'm curious what the DEM strategy/plan is, here
Of course you are.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm curious what the DEM strategy/plan is, here
So you do wait and take your notes from Dem Underground. I always thought you sounded like a leftist copy n paste bot, but thanks for actually confirming same.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:21 pm to Jax Teller
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It’s a gamble
It certainly is. So sad because with effective leadership and honest resolve therein, this could have all been avoided.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:21 pm to thermal9221
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Of course you are.
We were thinking the same thing with SFP.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:23 pm to memphisplaya
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Make it Owen Shoyer
The cuck destroyer!
Unfortunately he is going to prison for failure to complete community service.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:24 pm to Figgy
Jeffries
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:24 pm to lake chuck fan
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Let's hope the next guy will stand for what's right and not play the fricking DC game
Fat chance. That is a nearly impossible uphill battle in the cesspool that the Capitol has become.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:24 pm to thermal9221
quote:
Of course you are.
Well yeah, they typically run circles around the GOP and gain power, which I don't want.
If they are legit giving in this early, they have a long-term plan.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:25 pm to Tomatocantender
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So you do wait and take your notes from Dem Underground
What?
quote:
I always thought you sounded like a leftist copy n paste bot,
What?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:27 pm to stout
Motion to Vacate what is the procedure and how does it work
If a motion to vacate is introduced by any one member, Democratic or Republican, the House must bring the privileged resolution to the floor for a vote at some point. However, there are procedural motions that could be brought up to delay the process or stop the vote altogether — procedural votes would be required to slow down the motion.
The procedural tool, which is called a motion to vacate, is a privileged resolution that can be introduced by any member of the House to declare the office of the House speaker vacant. Multiple other Republicans, some of whom have opposed McCarthy’s speakership in the past, have shown support for Gaetz’s introduction, including Reps. Tim Burchett (R-TN), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Bob Good (R-VA), and Eli Crane (R-AZ).
As the rule stands, if the motion comes to the House floor, it would need only a simple majority of the House, or 218 votes, to pass. Republicans hold the majority in the House with 221 seats, while Democrats hold 212, meaning McCarthy can afford to lose four votes.
The motion to vacate is considered privileged and requires a vote to occur within two legislative days after the resolution is introduced. The vote to oust McCarthy could come up as early as noon on Tuesday.
Why is Gaetz allowed?
Democrats changed the motion to vacate rule in 2019 after taking back the House majority, allowing a motion to vacate to be brought up “only if offered at the direction of a party conference or caucus.”
However, in his bid to become speaker of the House, which took 15 rounds of votes, McCarthy made concessions with hard-line Republicans, including allowing only one member to be needed to bring a motion to vacate, effectively reversing the Democrats' rule change.
McCarthy is a dumbass. FA and likely about to FO.
I would expect someone to try and delay this. I thought the new rule forced a vote without any procedural delays but that seems to be wrong.
Looking at this article, it would appear that Gaetz easily has 5 people that will vote to vacate the chair.
There were six people that held out their support when McCarthy was elected: Gaetz, Boebert, Good, Rosendale, Crane, Biggs.
McCarthy can only be saved by Democrats here. That means they own him.
If a motion to vacate is introduced by any one member, Democratic or Republican, the House must bring the privileged resolution to the floor for a vote at some point. However, there are procedural motions that could be brought up to delay the process or stop the vote altogether — procedural votes would be required to slow down the motion.
The procedural tool, which is called a motion to vacate, is a privileged resolution that can be introduced by any member of the House to declare the office of the House speaker vacant. Multiple other Republicans, some of whom have opposed McCarthy’s speakership in the past, have shown support for Gaetz’s introduction, including Reps. Tim Burchett (R-TN), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Bob Good (R-VA), and Eli Crane (R-AZ).
As the rule stands, if the motion comes to the House floor, it would need only a simple majority of the House, or 218 votes, to pass. Republicans hold the majority in the House with 221 seats, while Democrats hold 212, meaning McCarthy can afford to lose four votes.
The motion to vacate is considered privileged and requires a vote to occur within two legislative days after the resolution is introduced. The vote to oust McCarthy could come up as early as noon on Tuesday.
Why is Gaetz allowed?
Democrats changed the motion to vacate rule in 2019 after taking back the House majority, allowing a motion to vacate to be brought up “only if offered at the direction of a party conference or caucus.”
However, in his bid to become speaker of the House, which took 15 rounds of votes, McCarthy made concessions with hard-line Republicans, including allowing only one member to be needed to bring a motion to vacate, effectively reversing the Democrats' rule change.
McCarthy is a dumbass. FA and likely about to FO.
I would expect someone to try and delay this. I thought the new rule forced a vote without any procedural delays but that seems to be wrong.
Looking at this article, it would appear that Gaetz easily has 5 people that will vote to vacate the chair.
There were six people that held out their support when McCarthy was elected: Gaetz, Boebert, Good, Rosendale, Crane, Biggs.
McCarthy can only be saved by Democrats here. That means they own him.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:28 pm to Jax Teller
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I don’t buy this one bit. While I can’t fricking stand McCarthy this motion to vacate was really dumb. The Dems are fricking liars. They have the opportunity to “bail” him out at the last minute while getting shite they want. Like us losing subpoena powers, committee spots, etc.
McCarthy probably knows he’d be killed if he did this. The deals that were made were made during the first debt limit deal.
McCarthy is probably ready to step aside and turn over to the next willing swamp creature.
Remember, you aren’t going to get a freedom Caucus guy in there or a fiscal hawk. You will get Scalise.
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