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re: Democrats on this board: Do you support the Green New Deal and Open Borders?

Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:13 pm to
Because this is vital to our sovereignty as a nation which is absolutely imperative. I credit you for answering these and other posts, but can you not see the future of our country in 5 yrs?10 yrs max? I’d gladly Trump not run for reeelection in order to placate Dems if we could just secure our borders. Every metric of our county’s stability hinges on this one issue more than any other. Diversity is great but if we have zero traits that bind us then we are doomed.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:14 pm to
So, uhhhh.... just gonna slide past the fact the wall isn’t just to stop illegal immigrants?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:15 pm to
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#2 Even if you’re correct, I’ve said at least twice in this thread that I’m not against wall/fencing as part of an larger border security strategy.



what a pussy. If you had one ounce of intellectual curiosity or half that in real concern for the issue, you’d know that the immigration issue is at a breaking point. But instead, you are on a message board lecturing us and trying to have it both ways.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:16 pm to
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Temporary child separation was an Obama era policy


Stopped right there. This is a complete lie.

LINK
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:17 pm to
Guess so.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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88509 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:17 pm to
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what a pussy


More personal attacks. I’ll ignore your posts as well
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:18 pm to
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but can you not see the future of our country in 5 yrs?10 yrs max? I’d gladly Trump not run for reeelection in order to placate Dems if we could just secure our borders.


Where in this thread have I said I was against border security?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38455 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:18 pm to
I like how you still won’t acknowledge that the wall is meant to stop more than just illegal immigrants. It’s cute
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:19 pm to
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Stopped right there. This is a complete lie.
Seriously, those kids are a non issue. No one cares about separating kids from parents in this country.

Kid separation is a pandering trick by Democrats to stir emotions and drive voter turnout.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:19 pm to
Don’t be an a-hole with your bullshite NBC fact check. Child separation happened under Obama - it isn’t even debatable.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:20 pm to
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I like how you still won’t acknowledge that the wall is meant to stop more than just illegal immigrants. It’s cute


You’re going to have to wait your turn man, it’s like 6 on 1.

What else is it meant to stop?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38455 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:20 pm to
His link even admits as such.

They want to play word games, yet still have to admit that Obama separates kids from their parents.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:21 pm to
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What else is it meant to stop?
Child and drug trafficking for starters
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:22 pm to
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His link even admits as such


He must not have seen that part since he “stopped reading right there...”

Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:23 pm to
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Depends on the country now doesn’t it? As a civilized society don’t you think it’s a good policy to not break up families? Can’t we have that and border security too?

You realize they pretty much have to do this cause the illegals have no papers and we dont want the kids being with smugglers right? You dont allow a potential smuggler to be housed with their witnesses/victims. Not to mention in the case they actually are families the shitty parents just subjected the children to weeks of walking in scorching heat during the day and freezing nights in the desert. The "cages" they're in are a much safer and more comfortable place to be than they have been in quite a long time.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38455 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:25 pm to
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What else is it meant to stop?


Cocaine.

Mexidirt weed

Opioids

Heroin

Etc etc etc.

You do know how funneling works, right? Walls act as a funnel. It makes people go to places you want them to go.

Know what that does?

Cuts down on the amount of drugs that get through the border.

How?

Instead of walking across an open area, they have to either scale/tunnel the wall. Which takes time. Which means it’s easier to find them. Orrrr. They are funneled into an area that is easier to monitor.

I know. I know. But but but muh ports. But but but muh 18wheelers.

Guess what? Those are more expensive routes than just waltzing across an open border. And guess what else? Those vehicle entry ways? Yeah the ones the 18 wheelers are forced to go through? They get upgraded surveillance and equipment.

Soooooooooooooo yeeeeeehhhhhhh
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:25 pm to
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You dont allow a potential smuggler to be housed with their witnesses/victims. Not to mention in the case they actually are families the shitty parents just subjected the children to weeks of walking in scorching heat during the day and freezing nights in the desert.


Okay, so we can’t come up with a policy that addresses this while keeping actual families together as best we can? As opposed to just completely losing track of them?:LINK
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:27 pm to
What’s the great difference between the green new deal and the new new deal and the new deal? For starters the latest was the one- the one and only that kept FDR going through tough times. The others were only knockoffs because they sounded about the same offered in the last 2 years
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38455 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:28 pm to
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while keeping actual families together as best we can?


How do you know they’re families? Just because Jose has 3 tykes and a fat Latino bitch with him doesn’t mean they’re related.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 3/6/19 at 10:28 pm to
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Cocaine.

Mexidirt weed

Opioids

Heroin

Etc etc etc.


So we’re going back to the Reagan era war on drugs as our top national priority? I think all that shite should be legal. You should have just said it’s there to stop a Saudi posing as a Mexican from smuggling a dirty bomb across the desert.

for sticking to the subject and not going straight to ad hominens. I think you’re the last poster I’m not ignoring in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 10:31 pm
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