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DEI? Multiple patients at a Nashville hospital are paralyzed after staff accidentally

Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:39 am
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:39 am
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DEI in academia and hiring and H1B et al labor importation further degrades patient safety...willing to be it's related here.

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Leisure4Me:

What a surprise!!!

Ascension St Thomas is part of a Catholic set of Hospitals run by an Indian CEO; like his IT brethren he has hired an Indian to run this error filled Hospital. Dr. Shubhada Jagasia, president and CEO.

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@MissDeeMissDee

Most hospitals are corporate owned since Obamacare. Corporations hire foreigners. Many may not even have legitimate degrees. (India)
The hospital pharmacy mixes meds. Start the investigation there.
@SecRubio Should look into Their Visas and Medical
Schools should put moratorium on foreigners we have a physician shortage and it’s only gonna get worse in the 2030’s

Flojilline

What’s really scary about that is I work in a pharmacy and those vials look very very different from each other. Potassium Chloride is so dangerous it has a neon yellow label. That is more than incompetence, that is potentially purposeful

Where's the Complaint Department?
3rd world doctors in all of our hospitals now because white boys can't get into medical schools

ImaGrimm

Potassium chloride is used to put animals down, with other cocktail drugs. Its very effective at stopping the heart. I hope it wasnt a tech issue. Automated Dispensing Cabinets are AI oversight these days. More and more AI is entering health care.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6736 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:45 am to
IMO, it's a case of Occam's Razor. Hospital was probably using cost-cutting measures. Cheap, good, and fast is basically impossible, but so many facilities think they can get away with it.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:47 am to


The medical profession is no place for social experiments.

It must be a pure meritocracy.

Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:48 am to
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IMO, it's a case of Occam's Razor. Hospital was probably using cost-cutting measures. Cheap, good, and fast is basically impossible, but so many facilities think they can get away with it.


Did covid profits make them even greedier?

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Helen Crabtree

Ascension.

I worked for an Ascension facility.

They first cut our research department. The drug eluding cardiac stents used worldwide had much of the research done in that facility.

They cut cardiac monitor techs so NO ONE was watching those monitors all the time, nurses were expected to monitor them when everyone of us had 5 to 6 patients on a cardiac stepdown unit running cardiac drips, including the charge nurse. That changed after at least one patient death.

They were going to cut our rapid response team out completely despite the number of times that team kept a patient out of ICU or quick response and rapid orders meant life or death. That was stopped only because of community pressure was so strong against it.

We had no chest tube written policy for at least a year, then they wondered how there were so many complications.

I could go on. They utterly disseminated a fantastic community hospital in which fantastic care was given with the most stable nursing workforce I had ever been a part of. 160 years after the place was started by a group of nuns Ascension sold it to a secular corporation. I am not Catholic and had not worked there for 4 years and I cried my eyes out.

I had loved what I did and worked with people who became my best friends, right up until I simply couldn't anymore.

Ascension was only profit driven, nonprofit isn't what you think. Patient care came behind the money. The change when they put themselves in the driver's seat was clear.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:54 am to
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The medical profession is no place for social experiments.

It must be a pure meritocracy.

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Ivan Jimenez

Replying to @CollinRugg
The danger of toxic positivity culture mixed with college institutions who have drastically lowered their standards. Morons are in places they don’t belong and people will die because of it.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:00 pm to
Interesting if you look up the requirements to be a pharmacy tech. The standards are really low. Like almost non-existent. Pretty much anyone off the street can start mixing up drugs and slapping labels on them.

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Education and Age:

No State Mandate: Tennessee law does not require a high school diploma, GED, minimum age, or formal training program for registration.
Employer Standards: While the state has no requirements, most employers require candidates to be at least 18 years old and hold a high school diploma or GED.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:01 pm to
How horrible is this? Incredibly sad.

Prayers for those people and their families.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14335 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:08 pm to
Not sure why people are downvoting the posts in this thread. Our health care system has serious problems. One of which is the fact that there are many third worlders with phony degrees working in it. I am old enough to remember when this was a respected Nashville hospital.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6736 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:14 pm to
Money talks and BS walks. Hospitals and Hospital Systems generate a shite ton of revenue. This stream of money gives them a lot of political clout. They use this power to keep standards low and suppress wages. I suspect there will be a push in TN to increase the standards for people mixing up drugs.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14335 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Money talks


And nowhere is this more true than a “non-profit” hospital.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11943 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:35 pm to
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Interesting if you look up the requirements to be a pharmacy tech. The standards are really low. Like almost non-existent. Pretty much anyone off the street can start mixing up drugs and slapping labels on them.

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Education and Age:

No State Mandate: Tennessee law does not require a high school diploma, GED, minimum age, or formal training program for registration.
Employer Standards: While the state has no requirements, most employers require candidates to be at least 18 years old and hold a high school diploma or GED.


That's scary...is that part of DEI?

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Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6626 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:37 pm to
Ooops. Just another “medical misadventure”. Fortunately, although like most states Tennessee has limitations of liability for medical malpractice, Tennessee’s is much higher than others. $1,000,000 for catastrophic injury, no limit on medical bills or loss of income, and punitive damages up to double the total award. Still not enough for being paralyzed and unable to work. Hope these patients’ condition is temporary.
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:51 pm to
Everyone has an opinion on this on social media

Could just be simple human error due to being overworked and understaffed

Med mistakes do still happen. It’s unfortunate and the folks affected will and should sue the hospital

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Interesting if you look up the requirements to be a pharmacy tech. The standards are really low. Like almost non-existent. Pretty much anyone off the street can start mixing up drugs and slapping labels on them.


While yes that is true, the pharmacist is supposed to be the final check before it leaves the pharmacy and sent up to the OR

Yes a technician could’ve made this mistake . Especially while mixing multiple bags with different meds under the hood, I can see how it would happen. Will be curious to see the investigation and report of what failed in this case
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39437 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 12:51 pm to
I have been out of it too long but when did nurses start making spinal injections?
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3273 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:06 pm to
You do understand that most medical degrees and training are not reciprocal from other countries? You still have to pass national board certifications and local certifications. This particular example is just sheer incompetence which is a hallmark of most new doctors and nurses but let’s be honest most high school graduates are lining up to take human anatomy and physiology classes much less pharmacology
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11943 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:21 pm to
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You do understand that most medical degrees and training are not reciprocal from other countries? You still have to pass national board certifications and local certifications. This particular example is just sheer incompetence which is a hallmark of most new doctors and nurses but let’s be honest most high school graduates are lining up to take human anatomy and physiology classes much less pharmacology


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The US medical licensing exam is called the USMLE. In india, pakistan, and other third-world countries, they pay off the testing sites, so they can study the questions beforehand.

In fact, there are entire websites and telegram groups dedicated to sharing test questions. The entire country of Nepal was busted for cheating in 2024.

You might ask, why don't they stay in their own country and help their own people? These foreign "doctors" come to the US simply to earn more money. Over 10x more. That tells you something about their character. They want to swindle and cheat their way to wealth, at any cost. Even if it means killing American citizens by their incompetence.

When I was in high school, I watched my grandmother get killed by three indian doctors in the hospital by poor medical management. They destroyed her heart and kidneys by sheer incompetence. I went over her medical records and notes years later when I was in medical school, and only then did I realize how medically incompetent these doctors were.

If you don't have medical training, it can be hard to tell if a doctor is making the right decisions. I'm here to tell you: avoid foreign doctors (and black doctors) at all costs. It's not worth the risk. It's not worth your life
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In my area, when you go into the main hospital system for a screening or check up, all the administration are White women, the physician’s assistant-White woman with blonde hair and blue eyes. When you go to make the actual appointment for the simple procedures though — it’s all Indians. I’m good, bye
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11943 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:24 pm to
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While yes that is true, the pharmacist is supposed to be the final check before it leaves the pharmacy and sent up to the OR

Yes a technician could’ve made this mistake . Especially while mixing multiple bags with different meds under the hood, I can see how it would happen. Will be curious to see the investigation and report of what failed in this case


It looks like protocols are being ignored.

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Melanie S'mores (Campfire Patriot)

People might not get the level of gross incompetence it takes to pull this off is incredibly high. It's not an easy accident. Everything has bright warning labels. If you're barcode scanning, the sytem would alert you with a hard stop that it was the wrong med. Not to mention basic human eyeballs and a second human verification. There are plenty of failsafes in pharmacy med mixing.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
11943 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:26 pm to
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I have been out of it too long but when did nurses start making spinal injections?


When hospitals are short staffed (because the hospital is trying to save money)?
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20476 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 1:41 pm to
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Could just be simple human error due to being overworked and understaffed

There are procedures in place where this is triple checked.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38786 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 2:23 pm to
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People might not get the level of gross incompetence it takes to pull this off is incredibly high. It's not an easy accident. Everything has bright warning labels. If you're barcode scanning, the sytem would alert you with a hard stop that it was the wrong med


While this is correct, you can easily make this error

If you’re under the hood mixing and you get your bags mixed up, and you inject the potassium into it but think it was something else , unless you put the exact bottle of potassium or other drug directly with the bag you just mixed and hand to the pharmacist for final verification. when you put the label on the bag, the pharmacist does not know what’s in the bag and it’s gonna scan as the correct product to give to the patient


I’ve worked in places where that is protocol and seen some places where it’s not
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