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re: Declassified Flynn unmasking list...Biden is on the list

Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
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No its not. not if you have the authority to unmask...which several people do.

Can't unmask an American citizen's name
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Posted by Possumslayer
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Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:24 pm to
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Message Breaking: Declassified Flynn unmasking list...Biden is on the list by VOLhalla Not really sure why you're laughing. The whole point of unmasking is to see the blanked out name. So when you first look at the call transcript, you don't see Flynn's name. Just the Russian ambassador. Then you make the request to see the blanked out name. So the ambassador to Turkey would have no idea Flynn was on the call until after the unmasking request was made and approved.


An ambassador isn’t a high level investigator
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:25 pm to
My understanding of what this says is that it’s just the tip.

These people only asked to unmask Flynn. We’re probably going to see some very interesting people who asked to unmask Flynn and numerous others.
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
Good bye Joe You gotta go...

You're going to jail and you're going to jail and you're going to jail...

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This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
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Can't unmask an American citizen's name



yes you can...if you have been given that authority. you can't leak that name to media
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
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That's illegal, by the way



No it's not. Unmasking itself isn't illegal. Leaking what you find out through unmasking to the press is though.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125582 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
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Not really sure why you're laughing. The whole point of unmasking is to see the blanked out name. So when you first look at the call transcript, you don't see Flynn's name. Just the Russian ambassador. Then you make the request to see the blanked out name.


Uh huh. And the only masked calls are those of?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83735 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:26 pm to
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Can't unmask an American citizen's name


Then again, why is it even possible?

If you can't do it, why is there a process to do it?

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:27 pm to
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no its not. not if you have the authority to unmask...which several people do. the illegal part is leaking the info to the media...which someone on that list did




So this is just a list of suspects. Now we get to watch them squirm and potentially out themselves.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:27 pm to
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Can't unmask an American citizen's name



You can if it's critical to national intelligence/safety. This wasn't anywhere close to that though. And even if they want to claim that there's no reason for 30+ people to view it. It's a 2-3 intelligence officials deal. That many people viewing it just points to an extreme political agenda. This is going to reach Watergate level I feel
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:27 pm to
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My understanding of what this says is that it’s just the tip.

These people only asked to unmask Flynn. We’re probably going to see some very interesting people who asked to unmask Flynn and numerous others.


So how can you illegally target someone for unmasking if you don't know who your'e unmasking..... until their unmasked?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:28 pm to
you can unmask if you've been given that authority.

i think some people are confusing unmasking and leaking
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69149 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:28 pm to
Another confusing part in the summary paragraph is it mentioned 16 authorized requestors made the request for the principals listed, which includes 30+ people.

Are the 16 also part of the list of names? Or is that another, unnamed group who may have seen the unmasked report?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83735 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:28 pm to
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you can unmask if you've been given that authority.



I agree with you... That makes the most sense.


Just asking him why the frick is it even possible if his assertion is right... Which it isn't.
Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:28 pm to
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tigerinDC09

tigerinDC09: They used it (the dossier) for a Carter Page FISA. The part they used has been largely verified.

LINK

tigerinDC09: I'm saying that in this instance, there is publicly available information that indicates that the FISA application was well founded.

LINK

tigerinDC09: Steele's sources provided reliable information re:Carter Page that wasn't available via other public sources. It has now been confirmed. Page originally denied any contact, but now says he may have "spoken briefly" with them. This bolsters the reliability Steele's sources does it not?

LINK
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46687 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:29 pm to
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you can unmask if you've been given that authority.


No you can't, you can request to unmask
Posted by The Pain Train
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:29 pm to
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LINK


Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13830 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:29 pm to
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So how can you illegally target someone for unmasking if you don't know who your'e unmasking..... until their unmasked?


If you have illegal/off-books surveillance on an american citizen and then use the unmasking as an attempt to get the name "legitimately."
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:30 pm to
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No you can't, you can request to unmask




if you're given that name after your request than that person has been unmasked. not illegal
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 2:30 pm to
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elephant memory Joe


Elephants have one of the best memories of any species on our planet.
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