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re: David French Sunday Email : Re: HRC vs Trump mishandling classified information—-good read

Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:15 am to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64660 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:15 am to
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BECAUSE THE NSD of THE FBI IS NOT SUBJECT TO INSPECTOR GENERAL OVERSIGHT.

In other words they can do what the frick they want without ANY accountability.





this has been the most concerning revelation for me.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23189 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:18 am to
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That man has done more for religious freedoms than any modern day mind. The main offense that the MAGA types have with him is his disdain Trump and biting rhetoric against the evangelical cult following Trump.


That buffoon defended critical race theory being implanted in schools and churches.

That is what eliminated him from any serious consideration
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30552 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:20 am to
At least you’re honest that you indeed don’t care about open and honest debate. Just another far left troll
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:23 am to
The national security division of the FBI is not subject to Inspector General Oversight. This changed at the beginning of the MUH Russia scandals with ZERO push back from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence who has oversight on this change (they probably wanted the change). It’s easy to see why. Corrupt DC did not want the Inspector Generals Office to poke around in the MUH Russia case.

The NSD of the FBI continues to have no oversight to this day and they have gone rogue. The NSD of the FBI can easily be used as the political police of the FBI and uniparty.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 8:25 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:25 am to
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Both of them possessed immense classification authority (by executive order, Clinton had power to classify and declassify State Department information up to the “top secret” level; as president, Trump possessed even greater authority). Both Clinton and Trump’s conduct implicated the same statute, 18 U.S.C Section 793. That statute imposes substantial criminal penalties on anyone who “willfully” or through “gross negligence” removes national defense information from its proper place of custody. It also imposes criminal penalties on anyone who “willfully” retains national defense information in an improper location and “fails to deliver it” to an “officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.”

This is the classic muddying of the waters that midwits like you love to eat up. You're the kind of person these people rely on to spread their bullshite without so much as a second thought.

Hillary Clinton quite literally had classified information, that she never declassified (the claim that she has the power to declassify still seems dubious to me, but we'll assume it's true here), on a private unsecured server. She also destroyed 30k emails that almost certainly had classified information in them somewhere and also destroyed mobile devices despite all this being subpoenaed by congress. So that should cover your nonsensical "willful possession" and "failing to deliver". Trump, possessing the power to unilaterally declassify, could 100% possess declassified documents that he decided to declassify himself.

However, seeing as how we don't know jack shite about what they recovered, this whole thing is speculation anyway.

Like I said, this tactic is targeted at people like you so that the media and the government creates enough smoke around this issue that you all assume there's fire no matter what the evidence may be. It's worked every single time before and it will work forever in the future because none of you lemmings possess an iota of critical thinking skills.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:25 am to
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I guess the next few sentences allude to a process to declassify documents and there isn’t any evidence to suggest that the process was applied


Lack of evidence isn’t evidence of guilt. Trump doesn’t have to prove he is innocent at this point. It’s the FBIs job to show us evidence that he is guilty of something. That hasn’t happened and this is like the 5th time they have accused him of something and never produced any evidence of a crime.

You think you are being an impartial fact finder but everything you post wreaks of wishing trump were guilty of something

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36045 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:26 am to
I've told OP this multiple times and he ignores it. He is just as susceptible to lies and propaganda and he claims Trump fanatics are. The MSM could tell him anything about Trump and, regardless of the evidence presented, he'd believe it. He's just as brainwashed as he claims MAGA people are.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 8:26 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38279 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:26 am to
Eat this downvote
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:29 am to
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I've told OP this multiple times and he ignores it. He is just as susceptible to lies and propaganda and he claims Trump fanatics are. The MSM could tell him anything about Trump and, regardless of the evidence presented, he'd believe it. He's just as brainwashed as he claims MAGA people are.

There's a 100% chance he believed the "Trump watches gorillas fighting videos for 6 hours a day" story
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:36 am to
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I fully understand that most MAGA types aren’t open minded enough to read opinions from people who don’t like Trump but this morning’s email was on point.


What a great way to start a post asking people to be open minded.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:40 am to
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Both Clinton and Trump’s conduct implicated the same statute, 18 U.S.C Section 793. That statute imposes substantial criminal penalties on anyone who “willfully” or through “gross negligence” removes national defense information from its proper place of custody.


Which national defense papers did Trump possess, specifically?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16228 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:40 am to
It's not the same crime. Presidents can easily declassify classified documents.

Hillbitch legit had classified documents.. unless they want to argue that Obama had a system set up where every classified document hillbitch wanted would immediately be declassified. If they was the case though, Obama would've cleared up the situation a long time ago.

Hillbitch was also using her official gov email on the private server. Trump was implied to be a traitor because he once used a different smartphone from the smartphone the government set up for him..
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:41 am to
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Are we to believe that each and every document he brought with him there, no matter how sensitive, was immediately declassified and thus widely available for people to see?


this should have tipped you off as to how biased and Irrational this email is.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 8:46 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
49160 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:43 am to
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How do you keep falling into the same trap?

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:45 am to
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this should have tipped you off as to how biased and I rational this email is.

There was an attachment to the warrant that stated the FBI was to take every presidential record created between 1/20/2017 and 1/20/2021.

If that's not a fricking fishing expedition, I don't know what is.
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3704 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:48 am to
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was criminal- you and I would have been rightfully prosecuted


Of course OF COURSE you say that now. Back then you and every progressive leftist was screaming from the rooftops how she did nothing wrong and actually accusing Comey of screwing her election chances by making the announcement he did (where he actually tried to get her off the hook).

Your absurd man nice try though but don’t act like we were born last night we all remember October 2016 like it was yesterday. It’s ALWAYS (D)ifferent when it’s your side.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 8:54 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 8:51 am to
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Of course OF COURSE you say that now. Back then you and every progressive leftist was screaming from the rooftops how she did nothing wrong and actually accusing Comey of screwing her electin chances by making the announcement he did (where he actually tried to get her off the hook).

Your absurd man nice try though.

Exactly.

The simple INVESTIGATION into her emails was pointed to as a clear sign that the entire election was invalid. Now they look at it as water under the bridge. Hell, Hillary is now fundraising on the "but her emails" slogan.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10314 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:00 am to
Hmm I seem to remember HRC was only a SOS that destroyed evidence, concealed others as well as lied about having, this is what we know is certain. Trump was the president who had the power to declassify anything, did not take or destroy evidence, concealing is a matter that’s not exactly clear because recently he was asked to put a special lock, which he complied. They knew what the items were and delivered them to him. These two scenarios are not close to being alike
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7723 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:08 am to
So Trump , [former president] had classified material [he didnt]- well because he chooses what is classified or not ..in boxes behind a locked door is somehow worse than Hillary Clinton [ Secratary of State ] having classified materal on a server connected to the internet in her basement . Interesting .
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 9:59 am
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:11 am to
LOL. David French is a dishonest piece of shite.

He's exactly the kind of "Conservative" you like and follow if you aren't actually interested in doing anything but slowly ceding the country to the Marxists.

He is a wet noodle. And Hillary deliberately set up a private server in her home while she was secretary of state.

For the purposes of money-laundering via her "foundation".

There is no equal-sign to be drawn here.

You're dishonest, so you don't care.
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