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David French Sunday Email : Re: HRC vs Trump mishandling classified information—-good read
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:42 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:42 am
I fully understand that most MAGA types aren’t open minded enough to read opinions from people who don’t like Trump but this morning’s email was on point.
He started the email speaking on Justice and how two people committing the same crime should be given the same punishment - he then went on to explain the similarities and differences between HRC’s private server and Trump’s documents.
He discussed Comey 2016 and how his words giving HRC a pass should be the standard (though both gravely wrong) with Trump because we cannot have a system punishing Republican but excusing Democrats because that is unjust.
He wrote how far we had fallen that both Trump and HRC were treated than you or I
Quote from email:
He started the email speaking on Justice and how two people committing the same crime should be given the same punishment - he then went on to explain the similarities and differences between HRC’s private server and Trump’s documents.
He discussed Comey 2016 and how his words giving HRC a pass should be the standard (though both gravely wrong) with Trump because we cannot have a system punishing Republican but excusing Democrats because that is unjust.
He wrote how far we had fallen that both Trump and HRC were treated than you or I
Quote from email:
quote:
If Trump went beyond Clinton in his effort to conceal and cover up his misdeeds, including defying a subpoena and falsely asserting he’d turned over all the classified information in his possession, then he may face criminal consequences for obstruction even if his initial misconduct wasn’t materially different from Clinton’s.
The bottom line is deeply disheartening. Two of the most powerful and prominent politicians in the United States engaged in conduct that virtually any other American would be prosecuted for. They have placed the system under great strain, and the system is buckling. It remains to be seen whether Donald Trump’s conduct was so much worse than Hillary Clinton’s that prosecution is both legal and just. Indeed the entire issue may be so fraught with peril that the DOJ may decide to merely seize the documents without any further legal proceedings.
But if Trump did break the law and is not prosecuted, we can look back at a pivotal moment in history and know why. On July 5, 2016, the FBI set an extraordinary standard for prosecuting powerful people for mishandling our nation’s most precious secrets, and we shouldn’t change that standard for Donald Trump.
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:46 am to 850SaintsGator
I quit reading when I saw it was you who posted it fwiw.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:47 am to ezride25
quote:
I quit reading when I saw it was you who posted it fwiw
Then the first sentence directly applied to you and I was spot on!
Thanks for confirming:-)
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:48 am to 850SaintsGator
Hillary was never president. Trump was. Who has the authority to declassify documents? Not Hillary.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:50 am to 850SaintsGator
The premise is entirely wrong from the get go. Trump could declassify whatever he wants when he wanted as president. This is spelled out in the constitution and affirmed by SCOTUS. Trump held ZERO classified material.
Secretary of States do not have this plenary power.
Secretary of States do not have this plenary power.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:50 am to 850SaintsGator
What Clinton did and what Trump did are not close to same thing, Equating them is a HUGE disservice to Trump. Trump did not avoid the authority, destroy evidence nor did he share confidential information or open it to possibly online theft. Not even close to the same thing!
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:50 am to 850SaintsGator
quote:
If Trump went beyond Clinton in his effort to conceal and cover up his misdeeds, including defying a subpoena and falsely asserting he’d turned over all the classified information in his possession, then he may face criminal consequences for obstruction even if his initial misconduct wasn’t materially different from Clinton’s.
We are open minded. It’s just bullshite.
You are comparing what we know Clinton did for a fact versus what you SUSPECT trump did.
Just think back to Russia collusion. Remember all the experts and insiders who said trump had broken so many laws and was going to jail.
Now we know for a fact all of it was fabricated by Hillary and the DNC
How do you keep falling into the same trap?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:51 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Yeah, this. David French sucks.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:52 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:
Hillary was never president. Trump was. Who has the authority to declassify documents? Not Hillary.
He addressed that point:
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Both of them possessed immense classification authority (by executive order, Clinton had power to classify and declassify State Department information up to the “top secret” level; as president, Trump possessed even greater authority). Both Clinton and Trump’s conduct implicated the same statute, 18 U.S.C Section 793. That statute imposes substantial criminal penalties on anyone who “willfully” or through “gross negligence” removes national defense information from its proper place of custody. It also imposes criminal penalties on anyone who “willfully” retains national defense information in an improper location and “fails to deliver it” to an “officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it.”
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:52 am to 850SaintsGator
Isn't it funny how the Clinton cabal always finds a way to slither out of any punishments and then proceeds to continue with their scumbag ways? The Clinton cabal knows they're untouchable and they keep daring the American people to even try to take them down.
In 2016 Hillary was upset anyone would even suggest she did something wrong even though she probably committed a criminal offense she should have been charged for.
In 2016 Hillary was upset anyone would even suggest she did something wrong even though she probably committed a criminal offense she should have been charged for.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 8:11 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:54 am to 850SaintsGator
I suppose Trump should have gotten Hillary's cloth.
Do you have a link to the email?
Do you have a link to the email?
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 7:54 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:54 am to 850SaintsGator
You are such a flaming libtard
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:55 am to GumboPot
quote:
The premise is entirely wrong from the get go. Trump could declassify whatever he wants when he wanted as president. This is spelled out in the constitution and affirmed by SCOTUS. Trump held ZERO classified material. Secretary of States do not have this plenary power.
He addressed that:
quote:
Trump’s defense is as weak as Hillary’s. His team is reportedly claiming that he had a “standing order” to declassify all documents that he took to Mar-a-Lago, but as Philip Klein notes in National Review, this argument is “patently absurd”: Consider all the times that Trump was at Mar-a-Lago during his presidency and worked out of there. Are we to believe that each and every document he brought with him there, no matter how sensitive, was immediately declassified and thus widely available for people to see? Moreover, where is the documentary evidence for such an order? Declassification isn’t a mere mental process. So far there is more concrete evidence that Michael Scott declared bankruptcy than there is that Donald Trump declassified the top secret documents he held at Mar-a-Lago.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:55 am to 850SaintsGator
Okay. Let me rephrase. Who has Constitutional authority to declassify documents. Again, not Hillary.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:55 am to DawgRebelinAL
quote:
David French
Question 11:
What executive branch employee has the power to declassify documentation or information?
A. Vice President
B. Secretary of State
C. President
D. Education Secretary
David French would have gotten that question wrong in 8th grade civics.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:56 am to 850SaintsGator
Hilary was NEVER president, huge difference.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:56 am to 850SaintsGator
quote:
If Trump went beyond Clinton in his effort to conceal and cover up his misdeeds,
We already know he didn’t. Trump isn’t being accused of using computer software to digitally destroy subpoenaed emails like Hillary. And Trump didn’t smash devices with hammers so authorities couldn’t view the information.
And Trump didn’t have top secret information on a home computer server that could be hacked by any nation.
Apples and Oranges.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:57 am to 850SaintsGator
quote:
I fully understand that most MAGA types aren’t open minded enough to read opinions from people who don’t like Trump but this morning’s email was on point.
Maybe don’t start off insulting people if you want honest debate. But you don’t so frick you
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:57 am to 850SaintsGator
William Henry French?
Posted on 8/14/22 at 7:57 am to 850SaintsGator
You repeatedly prove yourself to be an imbecile, and because you cannot fathom how that might influence my reaction to other things you continue to post, you point your finger at me because you honestly believe that the problem couldn’t possibly be what you bring to the table, rather it’s everyone else being closed minded?
Ladies and gentleman I present to you the enlightened mind of a leftist.
Ladies and gentleman I present to you the enlightened mind of a leftist.
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