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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM
Posted on 8/22/20 at 1:37 am to DMAN1968
Posted on 8/22/20 at 1:37 am to DMAN1968
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Ummmmm...antibody test show if you have had the virus...regular test show if you currently have the virus.
There is a difference.
Few of the tests being reported are antibody tests
A positive test depends on antibodies showing up. There is a way to tell the difference of whether you've had it or have it, but hospitals are fudging the numbers by lumping all positive tests together. Staffers at different hospitals have spoken out about this, and considering it's the dead of summer, it's the only thing that makes sense.
They predicted a "spike" in the fall. What changed that to summer? The fact that the hysteria was winding down too fast, and they needed to keep the shutdowns going.
Honestly, after 5 months of this BS, do we really still need to have this conversation? Do people actually still believe the numbers that are being reported?
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Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:20 am to Metaloctopus
Thank you for your contribution to the thread, I am assuming this was your last post in it since you find no value with it.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you have yours, I have mine. I'm not going to waste any effort (beyond this post) on responding to you as it wouldn't make any difference.
Across the almost 6000 posts in this thread, we've continuously discussed the lack of quality in the data. Without a doubt, the data is not perfect and never will be, BUT it is all we have to use to gauge the status of the COVID outbreak. My opinion is that I'd rather have as much information as possible, knowing it isn't perfect, to make my own decisions about COVID instead of relying on the media (ANY OF IT) to tell me what I should believe. You obviously have a different opinion that I'm not going to try to change.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you have yours, I have mine. I'm not going to waste any effort (beyond this post) on responding to you as it wouldn't make any difference.
Across the almost 6000 posts in this thread, we've continuously discussed the lack of quality in the data. Without a doubt, the data is not perfect and never will be, BUT it is all we have to use to gauge the status of the COVID outbreak. My opinion is that I'd rather have as much information as possible, knowing it isn't perfect, to make my own decisions about COVID instead of relying on the media (ANY OF IT) to tell me what I should believe. You obviously have a different opinion that I'm not going to try to change.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:21 am to Metaloctopus
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because hospitals (for the most part) aren't even trying to be honest with them.
This part is true.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:29 am to Metaloctopus
I enjoy your posts on Calvinism more.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 8:03 am to Metaloctopus
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Everyone is celebrating the end of the "spike". What I don't understand is why anyone actually believes there was ever a spike... In the middle of summer.
Well, for one, some of us work in emergency rooms that were admitting 30 COVID patients a day a few weeks ago and now we’re admitting maybe 2 or 3.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:00 pm to Metaloctopus
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Do people actually still believe the numbers that are being reported?
No. No rational person does.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:11 pm to Metaloctopus
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They predicted a "spike" in the fall. What changed that to summer?
The Cares Act was ending which was an opportunity to opportunity to sneak in mail in voting.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 1:38 pm to Metaloctopus
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Everyone is celebrating the end of the "spike". What I don't understand is why anyone actually believes there was ever a spike... In the middle of summer.
I dont think this was a spike, just the virus moving through parts of the country it had not hit hard yet initially.
I think we will see a spike this fall between the cooling weather and schools starting. Just need to plow through it.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 5:02 pm to Chromdome35
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted on 8/22/20 at 6:05 pm to Chromdome35
We almost got the sub 1k death day on a normal reporting day today. It's definitely coming soon. Happy I got the week correct on when deaths would start dropping! Nice to see the 7 day drop under 1k.
Hospitalizations down over another 1k since yesterday and breached below 40k a day or two before I had expected it (39,905, down from 40,951 yesterday; down almost 5k WOW). That is THE leading indicator.
Hospitalizations down over another 1k since yesterday and breached below 40k a day or two before I had expected it (39,905, down from 40,951 yesterday; down almost 5k WOW). That is THE leading indicator.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 6:35 pm to Chromdome35
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Thank you for your contribution to the thread, I am assuming this was your last post in it since you find no value with it.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you have yours, I have mine. I'm not going to waste any effort (beyond this post) on responding to you as it wouldn't make any difference.
Across the almost 6000 posts in this thread, we've continuously discussed the lack of quality in the data. Without a doubt, the data is not perfect and never will be, BUT it is all we have to use to gauge the status of the COVID outbreak. My opinion is that I'd rather have as much information as possible, knowing it isn't perfect, to make my own decisions about COVID instead of relying on the media (ANY OF IT) to tell me what I should believe. You obviously have a different opinion that I'm not going to try to change
I'm sorry you took such grave offense to something I went out of my way to be respectful about. I pointed no fingers at you, or anyone else. I said the fudged numbers were no one's fault on here. I simply don't see the point in taking any of these numbers seriously, as if they are even close to being a barometer of anything.
I think we are all capable of using common sense to see what's going on, without listening to what the media says. And that was just my point. These numbers are so far from the truth, it's not even worth it. I'm not belittling you if this makes life easier for you, and I'm not belittling anyone else if it does the same for them. I just wanted to express my confusion about what anyone DOES get out of it. And with that, this board delivered on it's usual foul self and got butt hurt about something that had nothing to do with any of them.
I don't know why you're bothering to tell me that I'm entitled to my opinion, because if there's one thing I've learned recently, it's that I'm entitled to nothing other than what the poli-board mob approves of. Your reaction wasn't one of a person disagreeing with another's opinion. It was more like a person who takes such pride in a thread that he created five months ago, that he forgot that not everyone is going to show up and kiss his butt about it. I had no quarrel with you, whatsoever. It was a comment about the numbers, and how I get nothing out of them. I AM entitled to that opinion, and it's pathetic how sensitive people are.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 8/22/20 at 6:49 pm to Metaloctopus
Lots of words to not say anything.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 6:53 pm to Tiguar
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Lots of words to not say anything
What is this? Are you proud of replies like that? I "spoke" very clearly and made my point. Whether or not you agree with it.
Posts like yours are just petty and worthless.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:15 pm to Tiguar
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Lots of words to not say anything.
It's plenty of words saying "I'm not" but at the same time he certainly is.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 6:41 am to Metaloctopus
It doesn't matter what anyone on this board thinks. Based off these numbers, state and local politicians are crafting their authoritarian lockdown rules, employers are deciding work from home strategies, congress is debating trillion dollar stimulus bills, hedge fund managers are moving billions of dollars in and out of different sectors in the market. You ignore them at your own detriment.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:50 am to Metaloctopus
Chrome does excellent work with available data.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 10:53 am to AthensTiger
Agreed, personally I very much appreciate the work that Chrome has done to assemble the data and charting, inherently flawed source data or not.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 11:00 am to AUMIS01
Arizona hospitalizations continue to crater. Down to 969.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Hospitalizations are going through the floor. The drop in the last 2 weeks have been pretty amazing.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:30 pm to AUMIS01
quote:Hes done a better job than anyone in the media. Can he be nominated for a Pulitzer? Should be.
Agreed, personally I very much appreciate the work that Chrome has done to assemble the data and charting, inherently flawed source data or not.
As for the other guy—if he wants to start a “COVID is just a hoax” thread, he should put it on the main board. If he has specific errors in data, or actionable information. that could go here. This has been, and should continue, to be an informational thread. “CoViD iS A hOaX” isn’t informational, IMHO.
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