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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:37 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:37 pm to the808bass
When do y’all think all these dumps will be over and it gets back to the normal trend?
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Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:44 pm to WitoldPilecki
It’s going to be tough to keep manufacturing, I mean carefully combing the data for, deaths.
In a few weeks, we won’t have any of our major population states from which to dump deaths.
So, two weeks or so.
In a few weeks, we won’t have any of our major population states from which to dump deaths.
So, two weeks or so.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 11:50 pm to DMAN1968
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A new testing record.
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing anymore.
Testing is still good. The more robust the testing effort the more we can actually understand infection rate and isolate those with the virus. Now how they report testing is a mixed bag depending on who is doing it.
Unless something goes terribly wrong i doubt we get back to peak levels of the NYC outbreak. Just not enough density in rest of country for that to happen.
To get into work from westchester, you take a train to grand central, then subway to time square, then into some of the largest hotels you'll see for a conference. This is what started the NYC outbreak. All of this happened with no mask or fear of the virus at the time.
This scenario is no longer a thing anywhere in the country so just based on that we probably don't get back there as long as we're social distancing and most people wearing a mask when you can't socially distance.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:36 am to oklahogjr
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as long as we're social distancing and most people wearing a mask when you can't socially distance.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:38 am to DMAN1968
"COVID cases skyrocket" was the mantra on the radio news this morning.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:58 am to Bunk Moreland
Welcome to Florida:
FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Questions raised after fatal motorcycle crash listed as COVID-19 death
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FOX 35 INVESTIGATES: Questions raised after fatal motorcycle crash listed as COVID-19 death
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:21 am to oklahogjr
NYC is up to around 40% for people with antibodies. Not enough for herd immunity, but it's getting there.
The city looks half abandoned. People are fleeing the virus, the riots and Comrade de Blasio's crime wave.
The city looks half abandoned. People are fleeing the virus, the riots and Comrade de Blasio's crime wave.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 11:10 am to dafif
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Questions raised
There should be no question, now, that the Florida numbers are utter bullshite.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 1:36 pm to dafif
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but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:10 pm to Auburn1968
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NYC is up to around 40% for people with antibodies. Not enough for herd immunity, but it's getting there.
That's well past herd immunity.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:12 pm to bbap
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Nicole Saphier, MD
@NBSaphierMD
BREAKING: Health officials from numerojs states have mistakenly included positive results from antibody tests when reporting new COVID-19 cases to the CDC, grossly inflating new cases. The scientific equivalent to “double dipping.”
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:21 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
"mistakenly"
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:21 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
That will account for only a small portion of testing. So it may move the needle 5% over the last few weeks in the states where they’ve done this. IOW, it’s not going to change the overall positive number trends.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:23 pm to the808bass
True, though couple that with counting every positive test, regardless if it is the same person, as a new positive test, could definitely take out a sizable chunk of positives.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:27 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
quote:This has been a problem for months, and in fact, may have been worse in May before states started being called out for it.
Nicole Saphier, MD
@NBSaphierMD
BREAKING: Health officials from numerojs states have mistakenly included positive results from antibody tests when reporting new COVID-19 cases to the CDC, grossly inflating new cases. The scientific equivalent to “double dipping.”
In addition, it may or may not he double-dipping, because it’s only double-dipping of a person tests positive for both the viral infection and later the antibodies. But I suspect that people who test positive for the virus are less likely to get tested for the antibodies since a lot of people use antibody testing because they thought they had it (or just wondered) but never got tested.
Furthermore, this would also mean that there was no cross-referencing with the local reporting agencies to prevent double-counting. And I’m sure at least some places would catch that and prevent it.
So hopefully states have stopped mixing antibody testing in with the results, but I doubt double-dipping is a major problem, and for comparative purposes over the last couple months, the trend should at least be comparable since this isn’t a new issue.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:31 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:My FIL tested positive twice (was hospitalized before original test came back since the lab was closed for the July 4th 3-day weekend off), but since they are reported to the local health agency (who then contacts all positive cases), it does not appear that he was counted twice (possible but unlikely).
True, though couple that with counting every positive test, regardless if it is the same person, as a new positive test, could definitely take out a sizable chunk of positives.
Now other states and jurisdictions may have different procedure that make that possible, BUT I suspect that this isn’t a huge issue either, and if it is, at least from a positivity % the same issue would be true for negative tests, if not more likely.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:37 pm to buckeye_vol
Buckeye, I’m seeing some chatter that there are signs of a plateau in Arizona.
Are you seeing anything in the data to suggest Arizona may be cresting?
Are you seeing anything in the data to suggest Arizona may be cresting?
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I feel like Florida will start dropping soon. Just an educated guess.
Posted on 7/17/20 at 2:42 pm to buckeye_vol
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Now other states and jurisdictions may have different procedure that make that possible, BUT I suspect that this isn’t a huge issue either, and if it is, at least from a positivity % the same issue would be true for negative tests, if not more likely.
I'm not really worried about it over a positivity %, more towards the current trend on spike in current cases which is what is being pushed right now.
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My FIL tested positive twice (was hospitalized before original test came back since the lab was closed for the July 4th 3-day weekend off), but since they are reported to the local health agency (who then contacts all positive cases), it does not appear that he was counted twice (possible but unlikely).
There have already been multiple states that have been shown to have done so, Texas being one of them.
As far as the just general testing is concerned though, if I test positive at one of the mass testing locations, come back and get another test in 2-3 weeks and am still positive, what measure do they have right now when compiling the data that that second test doesn't count as a new positive?
ETA: I believe Florida as well has been shown that their state dashboard doesn't differentiate between multiple tests. They may report something different,I don't know, but even in their numbers for total people tested, they aren't taking out people that get tested multiple times.
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