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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:07 pm to
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Today is going to be the worse day yet , crap.


It’s been exactly what the models have predicted so far. We are trending downwards in new cases, and are about to hit the peak in deaths soon. After this week it will only get better.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:10 pm to
It's interesting that while the death numbers are having their normal Tuesday spike, the new case numbers are not and may show another decline.

Is this a result of the trailing deaths? Probably.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:21 pm to
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Pretty much only have reliable numbers wed-fri


Would you settle for Wednesday and Thursday?
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:34 pm to
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I mentioned a few days ago it might be better to start looking at weekly numbers to get an idea of the true trend if the daily numbers aren't reliable
Or a moving average
Posted by Ingloriousbastard
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:34 pm to
I’m thinking so.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:35 pm to
is there an explanation as to why it is tuesdays, and not mondays, when the delayed weekend deaths are recorded?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:37 pm to
What timeframe do you think would be appropriate for the moving average, 3 days is too short, I'm thinking 7 days would be ideal?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:38 pm to
Here's my guess. A patient dies over the weekend. Hospitals fill out the paperwork, paperwork goes to the medical examiner on Monday to do whatever they do. After approval, the paperwork goes back to the hospital at the end of the day. The hospital includes the death in their next reporting day...Tuesday.

My wife's mother died earlier this year on a Sunday. It took several days to get an the medical examiner to sign off due to systematic issues.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:43 pm to
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What timeframe do you think would be appropriate for the moving average, 3 days is too short, I'm thinking 7 days would be ideal?
I don't know, I would probably plot a few and see what looks best. I would guess 7 days too, but you might still get spikes and drops when last Tuesday rolls off and this Tuesday pops on. You could mostly eliminate the steps when a day rolls off with an exponential moving average, but that would just accentuate the most recent spike.

I'm probably overthinking it and 7 days will work just fine.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:43 pm to
4 days
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
It may just be me, but the images on the first page aren't showing the data as of 3:30.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:47 pm to
When you say exponential moving average do you mean a weighted moving average? By weighted average I mean you take the most recent result and multiply it by 7 (for a 7-day moving average) then take the day previous to that and multiple by 6, repeating until you get to a weight of 1. Total it all up then divide by 28 (7+6+5+4+3+2+1)?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:48 pm to
Thanks Kid, fixed it!
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:52 pm to
Wheels of healthcare beauracacy turn very slow; particularly with deaths
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:01 pm to
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What timeframe do you think would be appropriate for the moving average, 3 days is too short, I'm thinking 7 days would be ideal?
FYI. For a moving average of times series data, there should be an equal amount of days on either side of the day calculated by the average, instead of the 7 days leading up to the final day.

For example, if you do a 7 day moving average, the 4th day would be the midpoint, so then it should start on Day 4 and end on the 4th to last day (e.g., Saturday would be the midpoint through today).

In addition, if you’re concerned that 3 days is too few, then you might want to consider 5 days, since it would minimize some of their Saturday-Monday 3-day delay, while also being short enough to capture changes in the data. A 7 day moving average may be too long given the sample size and the rapidness of the changes.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:22 pm to
This is a graph of the 7 day rolling average of New Cases and Deaths



I added a new column for 7 day rolling average deaths. It is on the right side of the deaths columns.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:24 pm to
56 downvotes on the first page for saying deaths are a lagging indicator
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:24 pm to
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When you say exponential moving average do you mean a weighted moving average?
Yeah that's what I meant. Not sure how useful it would be though.
Posted by AthensTiger
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:25 pm to
I'm still impressed with your work and dedication to this project Chrome!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 5:27 pm to
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4 days
You don't think that's too short given there seems to be a 2-3 day lull every weekend?
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