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Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:00 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Avoiding a second wave is a literal impossibility.
Because I want to avoid a second wave / second lock down.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:10 pm to mmcgrath
quote:So if Trump issues a proclamation reopening businesses based on Dr. Fauci's and Dr. Birx's recommendations, you'll support it?
I just want it based on facts instead of emotion.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:16 pm to Chromdome35
Is there any data, even some local or regional data that breaks down deaths by age/prior health condition?
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:20 pm to Chromdome35
quote:
He wasn't talking about my posts...
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:20 pm to PurpleandGeauld
I haven't found a consolidated source for that data. You can typically find at each states department of health website. I don't have time to go dig that all up every day.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:41 pm to Tiguar
quote:
You aren’t going to avoid a second wave. There is quite literally no feasible way to avoid it and keep our current standard of living.
Except for maybe herd immunity.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:54 pm to TeLeFaWx
You aren't getting herd immunity by staying shutdown. It would have had to already occurred due to wildly asymptomatic transmission and infection which makes further shutdown irrelevant anyway.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:58 pm to mmcgrath
quote:lol
I just want it based on facts instead of emotion.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:59 pm to Tiguar
quote:
You aren't getting herd immunity by staying shutdown. It would have had to already occurred due to wildly asymptomatic transmission and infection which makes further shutdown irrelevant anyway.
Agreed.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:
Except for maybe herd immunity.
People throw herd immunity around a lot, but it would require either (1) a lot of deaths through effectively a second wave that we let run wild or (2) a lot of time while it slowly spreads in lockdown for the virus to hit the - what, 60% level required for effective herd immunity? It's not easy.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:21 pm to Microtiger
quote:
People throw herd immunity around a lot, but it would require either (1) a lot of deaths through effectively a second wave that we let run wild or (2) a lot of time while it slowly spreads in lockdown for the virus to hit the - what, 60% level required for effective herd immunity? It's not easy.
Do we reach herd immunity to the latest strain of the flu each year? If not, why doesn’t it come back? Why is it always a new strain?
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:32 pm to Chromdome35
This is the link to the US state level tracker that I have shared via Google Drive. Chromdome's State Level COVID-19 Daily Tracker
This is the link to the COVID-19 Country tracker that I have shared on Google Drive. Chromdome's COVID-19 Daily Tracker
On the state level tracker the states I have available right now are listed below. I will be adding additional states in the coming days.
Arkansas, Louisiana, New York, Georgia, Florida, California
The source for the data is https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The source for the testing data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
On the tracker sheet you will see tabs for the following data:
1) US Summary
2) Country Comparables: This shows you how the US stacks up vs. select other countries dealing with COVID-19
3) Logarithmic Comparisons - Shows the US vs the other countries on the tracker.
4) Covid Vs Other Outbreaks - Compares the current COVID numbers to the last 10 years of flue and H1N1
5) US Weighted Averages - Explores 7 day vs 3 day weight average trends
6) Italy Summary
7) UK Summary
8) France Summary
9) Germany Summary
10) Sweden Summary
11) World Summary
NOTE: The daily growth rate data will not be accurate until the end of the day's postings. It will change throughout the day.
NOTE: I am not tracking individual states, I don't have a reliable consistent source for that data.
NOTE: I am not a mathematician, statistics guru, scientist, sharpest tack in the box, I'm just a guy who likes to understand for myself what is happening and to share it with others. This thread was not created to debate if you should or shouldn't take this seriously, it is simply to present the numbers and foster conversation.
NOTE: I have added a prediction number to the bottom of the data grid. This simply takes the previous days numbers and grows them at the previous day's growth rate. It should give the viewer some idea of what the numbers will look like today. Obviously, the final number for the day will be higher or lower based on what today's growth rate actualy is. This is just a simple indicator.

This is the link to the COVID-19 Country tracker that I have shared on Google Drive. Chromdome's COVID-19 Daily Tracker
On the state level tracker the states I have available right now are listed below. I will be adding additional states in the coming days.
Arkansas, Louisiana, New York, Georgia, Florida, California
The source for the data is https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The source for the testing data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
On the tracker sheet you will see tabs for the following data:
1) US Summary
2) Country Comparables: This shows you how the US stacks up vs. select other countries dealing with COVID-19
3) Logarithmic Comparisons - Shows the US vs the other countries on the tracker.
4) Covid Vs Other Outbreaks - Compares the current COVID numbers to the last 10 years of flue and H1N1
5) US Weighted Averages - Explores 7 day vs 3 day weight average trends
6) Italy Summary
7) UK Summary
8) France Summary
9) Germany Summary
10) Sweden Summary
11) World Summary
NOTE: The daily growth rate data will not be accurate until the end of the day's postings. It will change throughout the day.
NOTE: I am not tracking individual states, I don't have a reliable consistent source for that data.
NOTE: I am not a mathematician, statistics guru, scientist, sharpest tack in the box, I'm just a guy who likes to understand for myself what is happening and to share it with others. This thread was not created to debate if you should or shouldn't take this seriously, it is simply to present the numbers and foster conversation.
NOTE: I have added a prediction number to the bottom of the data grid. This simply takes the previous days numbers and grows them at the previous day's growth rate. It should give the viewer some idea of what the numbers will look like today. Obviously, the final number for the day will be higher or lower based on what today's growth rate actualy is. This is just a simple indicator.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:48 pm to Chromdome35
Ooh, today is looking spicy.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:
Do we reach herd immunity to the latest strain of the flu each year? If not, why doesn’t it come back? Why is it always a new strain?
I'm not a virologist, but my basic understanding is:
Flu (influenza viruses) mutates and changes rapidly by changing out some of its surface proteins so that our immune system doesn't recognize it anymore, and the most likely strains are included in the yearly flu vaccine, but sometimes an unexpected strain pops up and the vaccine doesn't work well that year. Even if we reached herd immunity for a specific strain, more new strains would mutate and pop up next year.
Covid 19 isn't a flu, it's a type of coronavirus, just like the common cold and the closely related SARS and MERS. Coronaviruses don't mutate very often at all and can't evade our immune system by changing surface proteins. The "common cold" is actually like 200+ different viruses, and since they don't make us that sick, nobody bothers to make vaccines for them, and you never manage to keep immunity against all of them.
Thankfully there is only one strain of Covid 19 (so far), not 200 like the common cold, and it can't mutate like flu, so a vaccine and/or herd immunity would be effective for it.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:53 pm to Scruffy
Our "governor" won't be opening us April 30 ... I'm really despising this man.
To clarify he didn't say this but boy he's sure "fussing" because we're not staying home. Yeah I'm not .. I'm driving for the hell of driving because it's me NOT being stuck in my house!
To clarify he didn't say this but boy he's sure "fussing" because we're not staying home. Yeah I'm not .. I'm driving for the hell of driving because it's me NOT being stuck in my house!
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:57 pm to Chromdome35
Today is going to be the worse day yet , crap.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 3:58 pm to jeffsdad
quote:Weekend deaths are being reported today.
Today is going to be the worse day yet , crap.
It's been like this for weeks now.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yep weekend bleed over
Pretty much only have reliable numbers wed-fri
Pretty much only have reliable numbers wed-fri
Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:05 pm to LosLobos111
I mentioned a few days ago it might be better to start looking at weekly numbers to get an idea of the true trend if the daily numbers aren't reliable
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