- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Critical Race Theory
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:05 am to Thundercles
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:05 am to Thundercles
quote:
CRT is pure victimhood where there is no victim.
Based solely upon race, hence, CRT = racism.
Much like Jim Crow, CRT is the platform used to justify discriminatory policies and behaviors.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:15 am to Marquesa
quote:First off, Critical Theory is a Marxist tool.
Critical Race Theory
CRT is a subset.
You'll rarely find a proponent of one without the other.
As far as a racist component, I'd separate actual theorists, or authors, from consumers of it. The designers of CRT, its theorists, are inevitably racist. Consumers or students of CRT can view past racism and oppression in terms of current victimization without a racist distinction. i.e., Current limitations may not be based on current bias, but are secondary to the racial oppression of ancestors in the past.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:29 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Consumers or students of CRT can view past racism and oppression in terms of current victimization without a racist distinction
I disagree. A core tenant of CRT is that “white people” (inclusive of ‘white hispanics’, Asians, and in some circumstances non-blacks) are inherently racist which is extremely racist in itself. As posted earlier, this is a subset of the Marxist ideology of Critical Theory which seeks to break the population into subcategories to further divide society. See gender theory, queer theory, etc. it’s also the reason the say stuff like “the black face of white supremacy” with complete seriousness.
It simply Marxism.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:23 am to Marshhen
quote:Again, that is true of the authors/proponents. But it's not necessarily the snake oil they are selling for consumption. Their pitch is ancestral racists embedded bias in the legal system, economics and finance, etc. Presently the structural racism, can go unrecognized by people who are not inherently racist. That's the pitch.
I disagree. A core tenant of CRT is that “white people” (inclusive of ‘white hispanics’, Asians, and in some circumstances non-blacks) are inherently racist which is extremely racist in itself.
e.g., Why were all Barbi dolls white?
Why were all of Walt Disney's human characters white? etc, etc, etc.
There are obviously a litany of possible answers.
But the Critical Race theorist would identify one singularly.
Walt Disney or Ruth Handler were white racists. Hence the resultant white characters.
The trick is selling that crap to a nonracist, present-day audience. If the theorist tells my Black friends I'm a racist, they'll tell him to take a hike. So instead, he says I'm oblivious to the structural racism all around that props me up, and keeps others down. That way my friends can swallow CRT and simultaneously sync it with their own current observations.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:28 am to Thundercles
quote:
Put clearly, CRT is the belief that racism (against minorities is the assumption) is baked into legal, political, educational, and societal structure.
I truly don't understand how someone can deny this and expect to be taken seriously. Anyone with any sort of grasp on American history can easily connect these dots.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:31 am to This GUN for HIRE
quote:
If you don't know, maybe you should educate yourself.
This is silly. I've done CRT (and other critical theory coursework) inside reasonably high level academia and I've read a lot of source texts.
I'm probably far more anti-CRT than you're expecting. That said, "it's reverse racism" isn't going to be too persuasive for soccer moms fed a steady diet of this ideology, hence my comment.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:33 am to Bard
quote:
and it's offspring, DEI)
DEI is a neoliberal creation, which is why its such a failure (like every other neoliberal thing, i.e. the entire American government).
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:35 am to Marquesa
I can't prove you wrong, because you are correct. Critical race theory is an act of final frustration by the race industry. Having achieved equality under the law, aided by quotas, without seeing an equalization in outcomes, the race hucksters have embarked on an effort to drag everyone down in order to achieve that elusive equality. That's what CRT is all about.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:35 am to 4cubbies
quote:
I truly don't understand how someone can deny this and expect to be taken seriously. Anyone with any sort of grasp on American history can easily connect these dots.
Because nearly all of the evidence for it takes modern outcomes, makes vague reference to decades-old racism in American systems and imputes that onto modern policies/systems without any actual work shown?
The fact that America had racist systems doesn't render your statement accurate. It's why you have imbeciles of your persuasion yelling that police were an invention to subjugate minorities.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:36 am to oklahogjr
quote:
Define what is contained in critical race theory for me real quick
It's populism applied to the left.
All our problems are due to institutional racism as perpetuated by the Deep State.
Pretty much the same as populism as applied to the right, with the main difference being that the supposed oppressed party is oppressed on the basis of race rather than class.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:38 am to 4cubbies
quote:
I truly don't understand how someone can deny this and expect to be taken seriously. Anyone with any sort of grasp on American history can easily connect these dots.
Because y'all took grains of truth and blew it into some massive quasi-religion.
Yes there are oppressed people, and yes, intersectionality is retarded.
Both of these are true.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:41 am to 4cubbies
quote:
DEI is a neoliberal creation
How do you figure DEI qualifies as neoliberalism?
quote:
neoliberalism is often associated with policies of economic liberalization, including privatization, deregulation, globalization, free trade, monetarism, austerity, and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.
CRT and DEI are both squarely in the camp of progressivism.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Because y'all took grains of truth and blew it into some massive quasi-religion.
And that is populism in a nutshell. Same thing the right is doing with their "Deep State" nonsense. This is the left's version of the "Deep State Uniparty."
And both sides have their conspiracy theories to fan the sparks of truth into flames of discontent, since those sparks aren't sufficient to do so on their own.
And both sides have driven themselves into enough of a frenzy that they both believe that we need to burn the system that has produced a society with the least racism, least inequality of life, most civil rights, most prosperity, and greatest quality of life that has ever been enjoyed on this planet down.
It's a remarkable phenomenon.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:50 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
The trick is selling that crap to a nonracist, present-day audience. If the theorist tells my Black friends I'm a racist, they'll tell him to take a hike. So instead, he says I'm oblivious to the structural racism all around that props me up, and keeps others down. That way my friends can swallow CRT and simultaneously sync it with their own current observations.
It's a ridiculously easy sell. It sells a lifetime of victimhood as an alternative to accountability or personal responsibility. Black people aren't overwhelmingly poor because of a culture that places little value on human life, education, or the nuclear family. It is solely because of white racism.
And it doesn't matter that you can point to white populations that are poor for exactly the same reasons. Still racism.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 8:53 am
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:02 am to 4cubbies
quote:
I truly don't understand how someone can deny this and expect to be taken seriously.
Show me how math is a racist construct.
quote:
Anyone with any sort of grasp on American history can easily connect these dots.
And that's where you fail. You extrapolate that since some things were once that way, everything is now that way. This is the same philosophical nonsense which attempts to claim that "x slavery" (psychological, economic, charismatic, etc) is no different than physical slavery, thus we still actively engage in slavery today.
That's the philosophy of race hucksters and other agitators who make their living off of creating animus while also claiming to be the ones who can solve it (if you just follow them and/or give them money).
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 9:24 am
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:12 am to Evolved Simian
quote:We're all susceptible to a bit of victimization. The Richard Cory syndrome. Woe is me compared with him and what he's got.
It's a ridiculously easy sell. It sells a lifetime of victimhood as an alternative to accountability or personal responsibility
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:49 am to Bard
DEI commodifies diversity, equity and inclusion through paid trainings run by highly paid consultants, etc. It’s all just a farce and a money grab.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:53 am to 4cubbies
Yes, those highly paid grifters run brainwashing programs.
Unless you accept the extreme ideals of CRT, society requires retraining.
Its fringe. You folks are extremists.
Unless you accept the extreme ideals of CRT, society requires retraining.
Its fringe. You folks are extremists.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:53 am to Marquesa
quote:this site has turned into boomer Facebook with fake hot takes everywhere.
black racism - prove me wrong.
FLAMING HOT TAKE:
“CRT is racist”
“Black people commit crime”
“There are only two genders”
“Democrats aren’t patriotic”
Now give me my upvotes
Popular
Back to top
![logo](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/images/layout/TDIcon.jpg)