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re: Corporation For Public Broadcasting To Shut Down Operations After Loss Of Federal Funding

Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:12 pm to
Partisan Bull shite
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:16 pm to
But, but, but I was told by several lefties that taxpayer dollars from the government were a mere pittance to these public broadcasters! Maybe shutting down USAID was the stiff jab, that set up the straight right of getting them off the taxpayer teat.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33141 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:17 pm to
that alone makes this term a success.
Posted by randybobandy
NOLA
Member since Mar 2015
2065 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:21 pm to
Oh no! Where will I find reruns of 40 year old British comedy? Nevermind, they are all on youtube for FREEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5368 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:25 pm to
The NPR radio station in Austin, owned by UT, is ranked #1 in market share above all commercial stations. Why should that entity receive one dime of tax support when they are competing for market share against stations that receive no such funding and actually have to pay taxes to support a competitor that is beating them?!?!
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:30 pm to
HBO owns sesame street bought it in 2016, then announced that they were canceling in dec. of 2024. the owner of the rights is sesame workshop. the fact that all these shows were created and funded by the government and should have never been allowed to be owned private individuals or 501c3's and yet they where i should own mr. rogers neighborhood, not fred rogers, because i paid for it. same goes for traveling europe with rick steves or antiques road show.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11594 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

So sad. Those rural people will no longer be able to get weather reports or emergency disaster declarations, lol.


When was the last time LPB had a live weathercast, I do realize LPB does feed state press conferences for hurricanes and even did some during COVID using their satellite backhaul transponder for other stations in the state, but that is a function of state government and should be funded with state dollars and not CPB.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

how will the surviving stations get their programming, especially the nationally distributed shows that most recognize

From member contributions.

Local stations purchase programming they don't produce themselves. Those are the funds NPR and PBS operate on. NPR and PBS didn't get a majority of their funding directly from the federal government (CPB).

I don't think ending federal funding of public broadcasting is going to have the effect a lot of people think it will. I predict public broadcasting will become even more liberal as the urban centers dominate, and rural stations shut down. Although some public networks are largely funded by states, LPB, for example. They will still be buying broadcast rights to nationally syndicated programming from PBS and NPR - as well as other networks such as BBC, APM, PRX, etc...

It's the rural stations that depended on CPB for the majority of their funding, and thus will be the ones hardest hit.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1921 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

UT, is ranked #1 in market share above all commercial stations.


not trying to pick a fight, i just find that hard to believe i would assume it be whatever the most listened to latino station.

it's had to believe they can't beat out NPR's stellar daytime lineup of "fresh air" and "all things considered"
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24128 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

predict public broadcasting


That's the thing, and the most important thing. It's not public broadcasting anymore and can no longer claim the legitimacy of being funded by taxpayers.

They become just another left wing shite hole propaganda clown show.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2749 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:50 pm to
Wait, I thought they were supported by the viewers? Just make it subscription based.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19553 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:51 pm to
my question was not how would they fund the purchase of the programming, but more how that process will work going forward

for example, PBS distributes programs via satellite and terrestrial (fiber) delivery systems that were Federally funded through CPB - how these will be managed and maintained in the future is unclear

i agree that the larger market stations will be ok, probably layoff some less-than-necessary staff (i.e., many stations still employ Master Control operators despite being fully automated), but i wonder what effects the death of CPB will have on the acquisition of national content

at any rate, i would think ramping up local corporate support and underwriting would get most stations over the hump, and increasing local production could help raise their profile in the community
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Harry Boutte

if you don’t mind my asking, are you in the public media biz?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15050 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

“Despite the extraordinary efforts of millions of Americans who called, wrote, and petitioned Congress to preserve federal funding for CPB, we now face the difficult reality of closing our operations.


Millions? Not.

Now take out the Ad council and their worthless commercials.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91593 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:54 pm to
its ok, they'll get their own show on their sister network, MSNBC anyway.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3945 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah, NOVA was soooooo radical.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

Why should that entity receive one dime of tax support

Maybe because they are owned by the government. Didn't you say it was owned by UT?
quote:

they are competing for market share against stations that receive no such funding

Isn't the university itself competing for marketshare against private universities that receive no tax support?

Using a university owned station is a bad example.

But I'm not arguing for federal funding of public broadcasting, I'm just saying that as CPB funding dries up, some stations will shut down, probably primarily rural stations, and the ones that are left will be the ones that can get enough member support, probably in large, blue, urban centers.

There is a horrible misunderstanding of how public broadcasting is funded. People thought NPR would go away if CPB funding was shut down. I don't think that's going to happen. I'm afraid public broadcasting will get even more liberal.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2855 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:56 pm to
You hate to see it....
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9712 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

“Despite the extraordinary efforts of millions of Americans who called, wrote, and petitioned Congress to preserve federal funding for CPB, we now face the difficult reality of closing our operations..."


So why don't these "millions of Americans" who want CPB to continue operations provide the necessary funding for it like a non-profit org? Could it be that either these "millions of Americans" want someone else to pay for it, or could it possibly be that there simply ain't no "millions of Americans" who are so heavily vested in CPB that they felt it necessary to petition congress on behalf of the CPB?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48097 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 1:58 pm to
:bow: :bow:
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3784 posts
Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

It's not public broadcasting anymore and can no longer claim the legitimacy of being funded by taxpayers.



Of course it is, and they can. One of their largest funding sources has always been member contributions. AKA: The tax-paying public.

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Among the 467 surveyed, stations relied on federal funding (again, from any federal source, not just CPB) for an average of 16% of their total revenue in FY23. Public television stations had the highest average reliance at 18%, while public radio stations had an average reliance of 14%. NPR and PBS stations relied on federal funding for an average of 13% and 18%, respectively.

The five stations most dependent on federal funding as a percentage of their FY23 revenue — Oregon’s KCUW, New Mexico’s KSHI, and KUHB, KDSP and KNSA in Alaska — were all radio stations. Worryingly, these were the only stations in the study with a reliance of 80% or higher, and four had a reliance of over 90%. The most dependent public television stations — Tennessee’s West TN PBS, Texas’ Basin PBS, Illinois’ WQPT PBS, Kansas’ Smoky Hills PBS and California’s KEET — relied on federal funds for 40% or more of their total revenue.

Zooming out, the state with the highest average dependence on federal funding among its public broadcasters was West Virginia, followed closely by Alaska, New Mexico and Montana. All but one of these states fall into the West region as identified by the U.S. Census Bureau. It shouldn’t be surprising, therefore, that stations in the West had the highest average reliance on federal funding of any other region in the U.S.

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