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re: Constitutional carry

Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:07 am to
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15664 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:07 am to
We have had Constitutional carry in Tennessee for several years.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10436 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:15 am to
Yep

Cops make money off of it from side gigs and the state police agency gets fees from the licenses

Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
1955 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:50 am to
quote:

if it's not in your constitution


wut?

We all abide by the same constitution. United States Constitution aka "THE Supreme Law of the Land"> State Constitution
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5582 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:51 am to
Constitutional carry should be national.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32259 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:17 am to
You are suggesting the US constitution specifies constitutional carry? Show me.....
Posted by mooseofterror
USA
Member since Dec 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:54 am to
he may be talking about the little tid-bit - "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" I know, its a bit broad, but that's the intention. No need to enumerate it within a book of "Codes and Policies"
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:04 am to
quote:

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED


It should be that simple. The criminals are already packing anyway. By definition, they do not care about the law. Weapons restrictions only restrict those who follow the law, which is by and large a voluntary decision.

I wish there was an accurate data set on how many felons are concealing fully automatic handguns in cities where handguns are not allowed at all. It sure doesn't take much of a trip through YouTube to find people openly advertising that they are doing it.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32259 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

he may be talking about the little tid-bit - "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Then he doesn't need "no stinking law" passed. He just needs to strap it on and walk down main street. I would go with The Judge. It's huge and stands out like a MAGA hat.

We have open carry but I prefer to conceal. I have CCP and got it back before we were declared open carry.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18285 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:26 am to
quote:

It is a shame we have to drive across state lines to get the full benefit of the Constitution.


Constitutional carry only applies if you live in the state. You can’t travel to MS or TX as a LA resident and CC legally unless you have a license from your home state.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:31 am to
quote:

If it doesn't pass this year it probably never will anytime soon.


IDGAF if it passes or not. I don’t carry often, but will when I think I need to.
I’d rather live to fight it than die following rules that criminals do not.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10436 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

We have open carry but I prefer to conceal. I have CCP and got it back before we were declared open carry.


I prefer to open carry.
It’s not even surprising to people anymore.

When the law is changed. I’ll open carry on a holster but if I go into a crowd, I’ll probably cover it up or pocket carry.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:05 pm to
I think it will pass, and as a small government conservative, it needs to pass.

Do I think it will make a differnce in terms of crime? I do not.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Gun Crime drops in Ohio after constitutional carry passed:


Crime dropped in a lot of places in 2023.

We need to see more actual data in more places before we can come to a conclusion that constitutional carry actually lowers crime.

Having said that, I support constitutional carry, because, it's a conservative position.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

prefer to open carry


Eww, no way
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10436 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:11 pm to
One of the unintended consequences of these constitutional carry laws is the rise in lawsuits.

Example
Criminal robs someone on the street at gun point, a fight ensues and the robber gets shot. If killed, the family files lawsuit against the shooter. If injured, again, a lawsuit is filed against the shooter.

Plaintiff attorneys drive these lawsuits.
Posted by Chili Mac
St George
Member since May 2019
127 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:17 pm to
I prefer to CCW only. But I understand others wanting open carry. I think part of the police dislike is not being able to determine the good gun carrier from the bad upon approaching a scene. I wouldn't read more into it than that.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32259 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Constitutional carry only applies if you live in the state. You can’t travel to MS or TX as a LA resident and CC legally unless you have a license from your home state.
Which is my point that it's a state thing and not the US Constitution. If it was US, then there would not be a need for reciprocity between states on their conceal carry permits.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36389 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:53 pm to
I am so glad florida passed it.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77992 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:00 pm to
I think it should pass, and it eventually will pass.

That said, I also think it is pretty irresponsible of someone to carry without any decent training.

The CCW Class is NOT decent training. It is not training at all.

Disclaimer -- I am in no way suggesting mandatory training should be a thing
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36389 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:03 pm to
I agree w/ you.

Especially

quote:

The CCW Class is NOT decent training. It is not training at all.
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