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re: Columbia prof: diversity training has strong opposite effect
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:51 am to cokebottleag
Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:51 am to cokebottleag
Anything you force feed me I, not going to like eating it,,,,,I could have really cared less about people being different from me, until they started throwing it in my face, now I resent their positions.
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 7:57 am to cokebottleag
I've been screaming this since the bullshiat started with Clinton.
The more you point out differences, the more you drive people apart. The more you encourage people to celebrate THEIR culture, and not OUR culture, the more we are alienated.
We were once a melting pot. We were Americans. Now we are a bunch of different people living in the same space. That never works out.
The more you point out differences, the more you drive people apart. The more you encourage people to celebrate THEIR culture, and not OUR culture, the more we are alienated.
We were once a melting pot. We were Americans. Now we are a bunch of different people living in the same space. That never works out.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:07 am to cokebottleag
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For instance, an empirical investigation of ‘white privilege’ training found that it did nothing to make participants more sympathetic to minorities – it just increased resentment towards lower-income whites
This is the actual point of a lot of the woke stuff. They know this and that's why they promote it so much.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:23 am to cokebottleag
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Encouraging people to ignore racial and cultural differences often results in diminished cooperation across racial lines. Meanwhile, multicultural training — emphasizing those differences — often ends up reinforcing race essentialism among participants.
Well, no shite.
There is a very small section of this country that plays divide and conquer on racial lines because it's easy and benefits them politically (both parties).
Any average American can tell you that race is one of the least impactful divisions among common people.
Income
Education
Religion
Does anyone really think Barack and Michelle Obama have more shared experience with Tyrone the crackhead on a street corner in Baltimore than their Martha's Vineyard neighbors?
Problem is, if people are encouraged to find commonality and cooperation across lines of income or status, there's a frickload lot more of us than of them (Washington Elite).
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:24 am to cokebottleag
No shite. That's the entire point. It's to cause racial division under the name of unity.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:28 am to OchoDedos
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Humans all eat, sleep, and shite the same way.
Incorrect!
Nancy Pelosi hangs upside down in her cave when she sleeps. She is an old bat, of course.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:29 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I know what the best position is, ignore what race the other person is, judge him by his actions, and treat people the way you want to be treated.
They don't call it the golden rule for nothing! This x100.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:31 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:honestly, I think that most people really do this, once they have had the opportunity to interact with a person and get to know him.
I know what the best position is, ignore what race the other person is, judge him by his actions, and treat people the way you want to be treated.
The lingering problem lies in the suppositions and preconceptions a person makes about another before getting to know that person, often based largely upon race, ethnicity, etc.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:34 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Who gives a crap about something someone can not control?
You know who.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:36 am to cokebottleag
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Encouraging people to ignore racial and cultural differences often results in diminished cooperation across racial lines
Gonna need someone to show their work.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:38 am to AggieHank86
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The lingering problem lies in the suppositions and preconceptions a person makes about another before getting to know that person, often based largely upon race, ethnicity, etc.
Even the loons with the implicit bias research were forced to admit that the biases that stem from the nature of people don’t seem to manifest into actions.
It’s almost as if the principles of treating people equally is ingrained in our culture. Imagine that.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:43 am to cokebottleag
No shite - when you chastise people and train them to stop doing or saying something they’ve probably never done or said, people tend to get a little irritated.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:46 am to AubieinNC2009
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The right wants to focus on merit and promoting who does the best
That is mostly a myth but keep believing that m'dude.
I'm sure you are just a temporarily inconvenienced billionaire.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:48 am to cokebottleag
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It is not clear what the best position between these poles is (such that these negative side effects can be avoided), let alone how to consistently strike that balance in training.
I've got a training lesson plan: Don't be a dick.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:53 am to Big4SALTbro
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I don’t give a frick where my co worker comes from as long as they can do the work and at least be some what entertaining
You really do need both.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:54 am to jclem11
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That is mostly a myth
Show your work.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:55 am to xxTIMMYxx
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Critical race theory is rolling back decades of progress.
That’s the goal of it.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 8:59 am to cokebottleag
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It is not clear what the best position between these poles is
Here's a crazy idea! Maybe, just maybe, we stop making everything about race and get back to the teachings of the civil rights movement. You know, the color blind society where people are judged for who they are, not what they are... The philosophy that brought us from Jim Crow to a black POTUS in less than 50 years.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 9:00 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I know what the best position is, ignore what race the other person is, judge him by his actions, and treat people the way you want to be treated.
Who gives a crap about something someone can not control?
If I were on your dissertation committee, I would sign off based on your observations and insights into the field of psychology. Such a novel take seems to be severely lacking in most modern publications... but then again, I'm a ChemE, so actual results mean more to me than feelings.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 9:06 am to xxTIMMYxx
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This has been very obvious. It’s making everything worse. Critical race theory is rolling back decades of progress.
I was reading very in depth about it yesterday. Both the benefits and the drawbacks.
Biggest drawbacks were it was dependent on a shifting narrative and has similarities to post modernism. Meaning that it takes into account moral relativism and some other things that are actually anti-liberal. Basically it throws consistent reasoning and logic out the window and doesn’t seem to have any consistent anchor or answers on how to achieve any kind of goal. It’s all feelings and stories (which aren’t unimportant) but without any consistent underlying cure for the ails they’re referencing.
Basically makes a lot of what we’re seeing in the real world make sense if this is the ideology it’s based on.
It definitely lends credence to us living in a postmodern or post truth world. There are no constants with this level of thinking so everything is shifting and very unsettled.
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