re: Co-Founder of Firefox forced out for views on Gay Marriage

Can't wait until a Gay Baker is forced to bake a cake for a nice big Klan rally.

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You want them to be tolerant of intolerance?

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yea, sounds like he was a regular Adolph Hitler...

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Mozilla’s mission is one of the broadest, most ambitious, and even idealistic statements you could concoct. It informs the foundation/corporation’s strategies to take over the world not for financial gain but for individual freedom, technological advancement, cultural good, and improved quality of life.

As far as personal differences go, one Mozillan put it this way:

If we start to try to make “Mozilla” mean “those people who share not only the Mozilla mission but also my general political/social/religious/environmental view,” we will fail. If we focus Mozilla on our shared consensus regarding the Mozilla mission and manifesto, then the opportunities before us are enormous.

Mozilla’s diversity is a success condition. Our mission and our goal is truly global. Our mission taps into a shared desire for respect and control and user sovereignty that runs across cultures and across many other worldviews. We may even offend each other in some of our other views. Despite this, we share a commitment to the Mozilla mission. This is a remarkable achievement and important to our continued success.

Those are words Eich says he agrees with wholeheartedly. In our conversation, he tells me that the mission fails if discrimination prevails.

“Everything I’ve done has been about meeting people where they are and treating people equally,” Eich says.

“People find it hard to believe, but I want to do an even better job of being inclusive at Mozilla.”

In fact, Eich is sponsoring Ascend, a project that helps “underemployed, LGBTQ, Latin@, and African American populations” get in-depth technical training and support from the open-source community.

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I still don't know why conservatives aren't celebrating this.

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I still don't know why conservatives aren't celebrating this.

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to be sure, i'd probably still rather the system work this way than any other

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Would it be okay if they had forced this guy out because he had the opposite view on gay marriage? There would be an uproar

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and probably some civil rights litigation or at least an attempt, but whatever

i said in the other thread that got whacked, to me this just looks like the Bullied becoming the Bullies. i'm not worried that it will result in some kind of government thought police or anything though, although this unofficial thought police appears quite effective

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I still don't know why conservatives aren't celebrating this.

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If I have to fire someone who had been a long-time friend and good contributor for a mistake he made that had really nothing to do with his job performance, should I celebrate my freedom to fire him, or mourn the situation?

I certainly support market mechanisms to weed out bad actors, thus making the market stronger. This situation doesn't come close to rising to that level, it's almost a 180 in the opposite direction.

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This is not what it is about. It's about bullying and intimidation, by a group that prides itself on "tolerance". Uses any means necessary to harass and harangue.

Actually threaten someone's ability to feed themselves and their families because of a differing view on any of their pet causes. Really?

Opposition to them is not just a wrong opinion, it is a heresy.

They are the "Man" now.
Oppose them at your own risk.

Hypocrites.

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I will point out that using your influence and buying power to try to get someone to do something in the business world is a long tried practice by the left and right.

For instance, the anti gay marriage showed support for chick-fil-a by eating there. The baptists tried to kill Disney's gay day by organizing a boycott of disney (didn't work fwiw).

The thing is the gay marriage proponents are really good at this. They just have to threaten and people cave.

Seems like good organizing to me.

and really for the good of mozilla, it was smart for him to resign. Attracting top talent in software is really hard, and they care about shite like this...especially in the bay area

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But what type of society are we headed for when the current society thinks we should think just like them or consequences will ensue?

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we have lived in this society for a long time, the difference is its your paradigm that is being broken, and a new paradigm is being put in its place.

Being counter culture in any way shape or form was a recipe for harassment not too long ago. If you were going to succeed in business or politics, you needed to be straight and god fearing, not to mention a white male.

Its in our lifetimes that it was common for gays to fear coming out at as gay for the retribution they would feel from their friends, family and workplace.

This is still the case for atheists, but has lightened up in the last few years. My family doesn't discuss my atheism, and my mother despite knowing about my atheism still asks me to lead prayers and talk about god and shite like that.

I do agree I would prefer a world where difference of opinions are celebrated. But let's not pretend that we are exiting that world NOW. We were never in it.

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You want them to be tolerant of intolerance?

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Was he intolerant?

I don't support gay marriage, but I don't hate gay people. Am I an intolerant bigot because I don't share your views?