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re: CNN Drops Rick Santorum After Racist Comments About Native Americans

Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:53 pm to
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"Native-Americans"?


And even I have been trained to use the phrase

The truth?

Almost all of those people consider themselves Indians.

The three largest tribes in the USA and like 90% of the population of tribes in the USA call themselves Indians.

They basically took the term

But Cleveland Indians is racist. Even though Ohio at one point had the most Indians in the country. There are earth mounds all over the state not seen anywhere else.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 6:55 pm
Posted by CedarChest
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Member since Jun 2020
2791 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 7:03 pm to
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They emigrated from Siberia on a land bridge across the Bering Strait.

Have you noticed how the commies in "academia" have spent the last 10 years or so trying to debunk this fact?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:29 pm to
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Have you noticed how the commies in "academia" have spent the last 10 years or so trying to debunk this fact?

They will eventually rewrite the "science books".
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26893 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 8:31 pm to
Looks like one thing is a holdover....Indian giving
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4809 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:16 pm to
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He’s a putz, but he’s kinda not wrong either. Nothing the early settlers built was based on the Native American culture.

Rail, roads, cities... we built that!


I mean we basically copied native Americans system of community as our constitution..... but sure
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131587 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:20 pm to
If we can be honest, the Indians were complete savages.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
1481 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 10:56 pm to
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If we can be honest, the Indians were complete savages.


Jeez, am conservative as hell but there are many ignorant posts such as yours on this thread - probably due to the fact that history has not been properly taught in schools for quite some time. The Indians? As a lump? Some of the multiple tribes were for sure more war-mongering over time but some were peaceful. And the peoples over a long time changed and customs and identities changed over many centuries in different regions all the way down to South America. To say that all were savages shows how limited your brain is with respect to comprehension and frankly how low your understanding that you and others on this thread have about the the subject.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:19 pm to
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basically copied native Americans system of community as our constitution


Lol. That’s one of those 1619 type myths.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:28 pm to
He worded his statement poorly, as it almost comes off as a complete dismissal of the existence of natives entirely. The point I THINK he was getting out however, that America as the world's leading economic and military power that we see today really had nothing whatsoever to do with the native culture that preceded the arrival of European settlers, is correct. America as it currently exists was born almost exclusively out of European enlightenment and post-enlightenment philosophies of economics, government and religion.
Posted by BPTiger
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Member since Oct 2011
5353 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:34 pm to
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we couldn’t use him again


True ...now that Trump is out of office.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30679 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:38 pm to
He should have doubled down and asked Fredo what parts of Native American culture are in his daily life
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 5/22/21 at 11:39 pm to
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I mean we basically copied native Americans system of community as our constitution


The major influences on the US Constitution, in its original form, were the Magna Carta, the English Bill of Rights, English common law and (often underappreciated) the writings of John Locke. Parts t eh Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are essentaly Locke paraphrased.

But the overall point here is that the Constitution essentially took the 17th and 18th century English form of law and government, threw out the monarchy, added more individual liberty and passed much of the authority traditionally held by the national government to that of the states. To claim it was based on native American tribal structure is just an absurd rewriting of history.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
1481 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:07 am to
Agreed - well put. Not surprising at all that native Americans influencing the Constitution is being pursued as a lib revisionist talking point - and looks like at least one poster on this thread bought this hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131587 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:21 am to
They were savages that had yet to discover the usefulness of the wheel.

If you want to pretend they were a peaceful people living in teepees on the plains, earting one Buffalo at a time, and smoking peace pipes, then it is you that has a limited understanding of history, chief.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 1:22 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29534 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:25 am to
Weird that he even worked with them
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131587 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:33 am to
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Weird that he even worked with them


He was CNN’s version of Fox’s Juan Williams. Both are just playing a role.

Hunger is a powerful motivator.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27616 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:40 am to
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“I think after that appearance, it was pretty clear we couldn’t use him again,” said the executive.



Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28374 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:54 am to
I think there is some misunderstanding about how the Founding Fathers thought The Constitution. The rules of laws and the structure of government were mostly based on The Magna Carta and parliamentary procedure, but did away with any idea of nobility, or that someone was born to be special, merely because of who their parents were. That's what was different from everything that came before. That every man started out equal at birth, and had the same rights as any other. No royalty or nobility, with certain rights or wealth belonging to them because of their bloodline. At the time, most of Europe still had royalty, and their governments were based on this.

The idea of "We The People" was taken. That was a way of thinking that was borrowed from the Indians, and basically the name of each Indian tribe for itself in their own language, meant "We The People", but IMO this meant that each Indian tribe thought of themselves as the only human beings. Anyone outside of their tribe was sub-human, and had no rights. So maybe, the thinking of the Founding Fathers, was that all Americans were a tribe, and you could be born in the tribe, or be adopted into it, if you were accepted, but nobody outside of the tribe had any rights or influence above the tribe's will.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11100 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 3:48 am to
You can argue as hard as you want but these primitive societies, in the monumental amount of cases, never even developed methodologies to memorialize their histories with the written word.

On top of that, those in North America didn’t even have the wheel, for frick’s sake.

So with all due respect -and appreciation- to the historians, anthropologists, genealogists, and ancestors, it is just plain, unadulterated horse shite to place these societies on the same plain of human achievement as preceding examples from Europe and Asia.

These peoples were not advanced enough to create a written record of their accomplishments. That reality may suck for them but it is what it is...


Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9523 posts
Posted on 5/23/21 at 4:03 am to
Well it's true. There was literally nothing here but savages who didn't even know what the wheel was.
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