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re: CNN Drops Rick Santorum After Racist Comments About Native Americans
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:06 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:06 pm to Darth_Vader
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Most were uncivilized and savagely brutal tribes, practicing things like cannibalism, genocide, systemic rape, and slavery.
yeah but, but, but, but
white man fau1t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:15 pm to Cs
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“We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here,” Santorum told students during remarks at a Young America’s Foundation event. “I mean, yes, we have Native Americans, but candidly, there isn’t much Native American culture in American culture.”
He got what he deserved for saying that. He should have acknowledged that the Europeans encountered tribes that engaged in war and slavery, which is really at the root of this nation’s formative years. And that we continue to engage in tribal behavior, particularly in our modern political culture.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:16 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:Correct. Teepees, loin cloths, nomads with feathers in a headband, constantly murdering white men and raping their women. Bears some semblance to Western buffalo tribes. But virtually nothing to the Eastern groups.
This is totally incorrect and ironically is a product of how leftist Hollywood portrays Indians.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:40 pm to BarberitosDawg
quote:One of the five civilized tribes. Got severely, repeatedly screwed by treaty breeches. I was recently doing a lot of related reading d/t a genealogy project. One of my ancestors fought in the 2nd Creek War. Interesting eye-openers for me.
I’m 20% Native American (Creek)
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:42 pm to Cs
The truth is racist. Damn.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:45 pm to Cs
What exactly was there when we got here? Corn? Pictures on rocks?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:54 pm to NC_Tigah
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One of the five civilized tribes. Got severely, repeatedly screwed by treaty breeches. I was recently doing a lot of related reading d/t a genealogy project. One of my ancestors fought in the 2nd Creek War. Interesting eye-openers for me.
What did you read?
(edit) I love genealogy. I've got nine generations on my Mother's side accounted for, including a Great+ uncle thwarting a mutiny as a captian on his way over from England. And a Great+ Grandfather selling 200 acres to Thomas Jefferson.
My Father's side is a bit more spotty and has the Indian heritage, but still lots of good stuff there. They all just died younger, more transient and really hard to piece together.
This post was edited on 5/22/21 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 5/22/21 at 4:54 pm to NorfolkTiger
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This is hilarious since a large part of our early political system was derived from the Iroquois.
What part was that, that didn't exist in Europe. I have seen this claim in some new history books, you must be in your twenties.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:01 pm to Cs
Everything he said is true and what little Native American culture or homage remains, the leftist are trying to cancel. “Indians, Redskins, Braves etc etc”
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:06 pm to alpinetiger
quote:On the Creeks, one interesting piece was "The Creek Indian History
What did you read?
A Historical Narrative of the Genealogy, Traditions ... by George Stiggins. Where possible, I enjoy hitting contemporary accounts in addition to retrospectives. There is a trove of fragmented material associated with old Charleston and SC history and Creek interfacing.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:13 pm to OleWar
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What part was that, that didn't exist in Europe. I have seen this claim in some new history books, you must be in your twenties.
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In 1988, the U.S. Senate paid tribute with a resolution that said, "The confederation of the original 13 colonies into one republic was in?uenced by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy, as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the constitution itself."
LINK
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:14 pm to Cs
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inaccurate
Nah
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:17 pm to Jrv2damac
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What exactly was there when we got here? Corn? Pictures on rocks?
Big areas of farmland that was already cleared, especially in Alabama. The settlers, who longed to have their own farms, coveted The Indian land. Corn, potatoes, squash and beans, are only a few of the crops that The Indians propagated and turned into farm crops, and it is estimated that without these crops 1/2 of the world's population would starve. The history of the entire world is about conquest of land, and that hasn't changed. It's best that we don't forget about that, because we have other people that want this land now.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:26 pm to NC_Tigah
All of those examples had existed in Rome, Greece, England, the Holy Roman Empire, the Swiss Confederation and numerous other European states.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:29 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:That's a book written in the 1800's IIRC. I haven't read it, so let me say that, but I've read some excerpts my sister sent to me. We are Oklahomian by way of every state to Alabama on my Dad's side.
On the Creeks, one interesting piece was "The Creek Indian History
A Historical Narrative of the Genealogy, Traditions ... by George Stiggins. Where possible, I enjoy hitting contemporary accounts in addition to retrospectives. There is a trove of fragmented material associated with old Charleston and SC history and Creek interfacing.
I looked this part up: What Stiggans apparently discusses at great length in that book is the traditions and daily lives of the Creeks. I'd read it just for that insight.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:32 pm to alpinetiger
quote:It is.
That's a book written in the 1800's IIRC.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:37 pm to Cs
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CNN Drops Rick Santorum After Racist Comments About Native Americans
How is that racist?
Posted on 5/22/21 at 5:42 pm to OleWar
quote:I don't disagree. Just citing the US Senate as a source of the claim.
All of those examples had existed in Rome, Greece, England, the Holy Roman Empire, the Swiss Confederation and numerous other European states.
The larger point is that a Constitutional Confederation was not exactly c/w the "nothing was here" characterization. The Iroquois Confederation extended from Canada to the Carolinas.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:26 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:Corectto. Nearly every tribe in the southeast was just that savage. Uncle Andy Jackson took care of that arse though. Gave 'em a double dost of their own medicine. That's why the Commies hate his memory so much, and why I admire it highly. Top 5 greatest Americans ever to be sure.
. Most were uncivilized and savagely brutal tribes, practicing things like cannibalism, genocide, systemic rape, and slavery.
Posted on 5/22/21 at 6:49 pm to Cs
"Native-Americans"?
There are no native or indigenous people to the American continents. NONE! ZERO! ZILCH!
They are immigrants like the rest of us.
Who says that? Archaeologists and anthropologists.
They emigrated from Siberia on a land bridge across the Bering Strait.
There are no native or indigenous people to the American continents. NONE! ZERO! ZILCH!
They are immigrants like the rest of us.
Who says that? Archaeologists and anthropologists.
They emigrated from Siberia on a land bridge across the Bering Strait.
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