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re: CNBC: The upside of inflation - rising wages

Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by GUAPLORD
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Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:04 pm to
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Wages are rising because of the private market is having to compete with public entitlements. Welfare is competing with private business for workers.

Maybe employers need to reevaluate their wages paid. Incentivize returning to the workplace. People are staying home because it's to their advantage.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53640 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:06 pm to
The downside of rising wages from a shite load of government funny money is inflation......I'm stunned and disheartened at the mass stupidity in the country.

Fry cook at at any fast food joint, "I can't believe I'm making $18/hr since the pandemic! "

The register lady responds, "I can't believe my gas costs per month are up 30%, my rent is up 20%, and our flagship combo meal is now 30% higher since the pandemic."
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25133 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:08 pm to
Anybody with a mortgage that had them stretched and is a booming area is gonna do well.


So there’s that.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4918 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:09 pm to
Amazes me how much of the "news" outlets are in the tank for the Democratic party.. Trump had record low unemployment for many different demographics and very good GDP growth.. but they still had to look hard for things to complain about because it was Trump..
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:12 pm to
Whose wages have gone up?

Some McDonalds went from $12 to $13 an hour to get asses in the building and they believe that everyone is getting that? Some of us were never let go, we never stopped working, never stopped paying taxes and worked more and longer than before and our wages haven’t gone up at all.

For those leeches who have had the opportunity to go back to work for months but rather live off the government teet, I hope they do get those jobs, I really do, for that higher pay. But in a few months I hope their pay and hours are dropped significantly. Why? Because frickem.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
43895 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Wages are rising because of the private market is having to compete with public entitlements. Welfare is competing with private business for workers.


I hate Biden with a passion, but the most punchable thing he's said since all of this has started was for employers to simply 'pay more' if they wanted employees to come back.
Posted by GUAPLORD
#XANMOB
Member since Jun 2021
83 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:16 pm to
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I hate Biden with a passion, but the most punchable thing he's said since all of this has started was for employers to simply 'pay more' if they wanted employees to come back.

Are you saying that the approach wouldn't work? I think it would work fine. People aren't working taxing jobs for minimal pay anymore. Pay them if you want them. Simple.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:20 pm to
Problem with most places that use cheap labor like restaurants is that they can only increase the price of their product so much to pay for this insanity before people quit buying said product. Most of us consumers with white collar jobs will not see a pay raise and only see our purchasing power decline.
Posted by GUAPLORD
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Member since Jun 2021
83 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Problem with most places that use cheap labor like restaurants is that they can only increase the price of their product so much to pay for this insanity before people quit buying said product. Most of us consumers with white collar jobs will not see a pay raise and only see our purchasing power decline.

You could be right.

Is that not the essence of capitalism, though? Free markets? If a business cannot compete in its market, it must adjust or die.

Businesses and models have lifecycles. It's time for the market to re-adapt.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:28 pm to
We all better learn to garden and to ride a horse everybody gonna party like it’s 1899.

Already hearing of restaurants taking steak off the menu as it’s too expensive.
Posted by GUAPLORD
#XANMOB
Member since Jun 2021
83 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Already hearing of restaurants taking steak off the menu as it’s too expensive.

So they are adapting. That's what I'm talking about.

Steak is still available. It just won't be available everywhere, namely those places who cannot work it into their model due to lack of demand or elevated price.

Some places, who can do it effectively, will still offer it.

I don't see a problem here.
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3501 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:36 pm to
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Pay them if you want them. Simple.



Not sure if serious... maybe my sarcasm meter is broke...

If not.. This thinking is the most absurd and dangerous of thinking because it is catastrophically wrong but believes it is right.

Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Jessica Dickler
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3501 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:47 pm to
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So they are adapting. That's what I'm talking about.



Adapting to what??... shifting in markets, technology and consumer demands?? NO!

Businesses are having to adapt to a crisis created by our government manipulating labor markets. So now, business owners (citizens of the USA) are not only struggling to overcome the challenges of recovering in a pandemic, businesses also have to contend with their government creating obstacles to their recovery.

Nothing simple about any of that..

Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30610 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:49 pm to
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private market is having to compete with public entitlements

The problem here is that's an assymetrical economic reality. Whereas the public sector can make the sky the limit in the value of entitlements, the private sector has a ceiling that will be reached in raising wages. The private sector will have to pass the costs to the consumer, and there's an endpoint where the consumer cries out, "Enough already!"
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62358 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Is that not the essence of capitalism, though? Free markets? If a business cannot compete in its market, it must adjust or die.


Competing against government entitlements is the free market? lulz.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:00 pm to
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"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." — Benjamin Franklin
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:09 pm to
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Give these moron a Ph.D in uneconomics. Wages rise 3% and prices rise 5% YOU LOSE BUYING POWER.


They know. They’re just counting on the lemmings to think they’re doing so much better under democrat policies
Posted by GUAPLORD
#XANMOB
Member since Jun 2021
83 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:30 pm to
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Not sure if serious... maybe my sarcasm meter is broke...

If not.. This thinking is the most absurd and dangerous of thinking because it is catastrophically wrong but believes it is right.
It's extraordinarily simple. If you want to get a person up and off of the couch and back into the workplace, you're going to have to make it more lucrative for them than the current situation. What we're seeing is that many, many private businesses were paying their employees so little that a few stimmies and unemployment benefits were more attractive than coming to work.

It's not complicated. If you and I are fishing off of the same boat and you're catching all of the fish, you're obviously doing something to attract the fish that I cannot. Maybe my lure is shite or your live bait is driving them crazy, whatever.

The bottom line is if you want the workers you have to attract the workers.

That is capitalism at its core - getting paid appropriate value for the efforts of your labor. That goes for the firm as well as the worker.
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