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re: Clinton Aide/Pollster "Stop Mueller to protect us all"

Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:33 am to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:33 am to
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We all realize and know your hypocrisy.
In other words you don't have sh!t to say. You baws on here, when things are not going good for you, alway say that everyone on here knows you're right, like that means something. It's hilarious.
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Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for Natalia Veselnitskaya working to defeat a law that is the hated object of a personal vendetta waged by Russian President Vladimir Putin. I assume you are all for sending him to prison for treason right?

What are you even talking about? What does that have to do with the Page situation?

You just run off with the mouth about off the wall, whatever comes to your mind, irrelevant crap.

My original question, which you never even tried to answer, is should the FBI have ignored Page's dealing with Russia that I described in my post, Here's the post and my question. Are you going to answer it or not?

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Page was recruited as a Russian spy in 2013. The FBI had been surveilling him since then for his continuing activities in Russia.

On July 7 and 8, 2016, now a member of the Trump campaign, Page gave a speech at the World Trade Center in Moscow. The next day, he gave the commencement address at the New Economic School in Moscow, criticizing U.S. policy toward Russia as too harsh.

You think the FBI should have ignored that?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:51 am to
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She willfully and unlawfully retain

That doesn't answer my question. You said if she was prosecuted under the espionage statute 10 years. What other lesser statute could she be prosecuted under and what would be the penalty?
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27309 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:58 am to
What leads you to believe she would be investigated under anything other than this Espionage Act? Top-secret intelligence is information that could cause “exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States” if it fell into the wrong hands.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:59 am to
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Penn is an idiot.

And you have the kahones to call anyone an idiot

Halper contacted 3 people within the Trump organization. Three> This old Bush crony is just sitting round dialing up Trumpers at random? And of course Page was one of his contacts, because of his Russian business activities. Clovis was another, who couldn't be bothered with Halper. And then we get to Papadopoulos. Who Halper met with BEFORE Downer. And was the one that fed Pap the info that Downer reported

And who is Downer?

Just a guy who gave the Clinton Foundation 25 million dollars. MILLION. And he just happens to bump into Pap?

And who is Joe Hockey?

Oh, only the guy John McCain went through to let Australia know that he supported them over Trump's objection to the refugee situation. You know, the same John McCain that delivered the dossier?


Try looking in the mirror, next time you're looking for an idiot
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:05 am to
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What leads you to believe she would be investigated under anything other than this Espionage Act? Top-secret intelligence is information that could cause “exceptionally grave damage to the national security of the United States” if it fell into the wrong hands.

Man you are hard to get an answer out of. Why won't you just answer, if you know?

What is the lesser and included crime that she could be charged under and what is the penalty?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19611 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:08 am to
All the libtards on twitter are melting down over Penn's column. Calling him a sell-out, being paid off by Trump, not good enough for any publication except the Hill, and a Russian agent.

It's glorious to watch.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:50 am to
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What leads you to believe she would be investigated under anything other than this Espionage Act?

Now I know why you didn't want to discuss anything other than the espionage act.
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As Ben Wittes, a former national security reporter turned think tank scholar, wrote this summer:

People simply don’t get indicted for accidental, non-malicious mishandling of classified material. I have followed leak cases for a very long time, both at the Washington Post and since starting Lawfare. I have never seen a criminal matter proceed without even an allegation of something more than mere mishandling of sensitive information. Hillary Clinton is not above the law, but to indict her on these facts, she’d have to be significantly below the law.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:53 am to
Having your own non secure server is hardly accidental.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35891 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:59 am to
Wooops!
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:02 am to
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quote:
texridder
You are the gift that keeps on giving




Wait until Stef cracks. That’s assuming he doesn’t fall up a flight of stairs after suffering a massive heart attack
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:06 am to
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Do you think the FBI should have ignored the Trump campaign's contacts with Russia


You mean do I think the government should be spying on the opposition political party candidate because he has International connections?

Do you think that's okay you fricking moron piece of shite
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:16 am to
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As Ben Wittes, a former national security reporter turned think tank scholar, wrote this summer:
People simply don’t get indicted for accidental, non-malicious mishandling of classified material. I have followed leak cases for a very long time, both at the Washington Post and since starting Lawfare. I have never seen a criminal matter proceed without even an allegation of something more than mere mishandling of sensitive information. Hillary Clinton is not above the law, but to indict her on these facts, she’d have to be significantly below the law.


whoever wrote this is entirely full of shite.

The dude who took a selfie to share with his mommy, aboard a sub-marine would like a word with you....

Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:16 am to
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congressional investigators


If they are anything like House Republicans.....
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16371 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:53 am to
Dickrider getting murdered up in this mofo
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49509 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:17 am to
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Trump campaign's contacts with Russia?




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Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138679 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:23 am to
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Egged on by Steele, they simply believed Trump and his team must be dirty. They just needed to dig deep enough.
IMO, that is a naive take.

'They' knew exactly what the "dirt" was involving both campaigns. 'They' weren't searching for "dirt" in the Trump Campaign.
They were creating it --- deliberately, maliciously.

Just as when Bill Clinton was involved in several dalliances which became public in 1992, the Clintons concocted audacious accusations attempting to sully GHWBush with an extramarital affair too.

Sully the other guy with your sins.

THAT was the plan.
THAT was the cause.
ChicagoPolitics straight out of Alinsky's playbook.

What was this actually about?
There was zero expectation of a Trump Presidency.
They knew the BillyBush tape was laying in wait.
Trump's loss was a foregone conclusion.

This was an effort to render impotent any post-election revenge on DJT's part, and then allow Clinton minions to go Scorched Earth in a counterattack, ruining the Trump Empire in the process.

As it turns out, this may have been a competition with far higher stakes for DJT than simply losing an election. Chilling truth.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49509 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:24 am to
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Page's obvious and overt actions


OK - you got me -

Giving speeches out in the open to hundreds of Russians is an aspect of spy craft I had not really considered.

Hang Page and anyone he ever worked with.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71774 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:28 am to
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This was an effort to render impotent any post-election revenge on DJT's part, and then allow Clinton minions to go Scorched Earth in a counterattack, ruining the Trump Empire in the process.


This man has his eyes wide open.


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49509 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:30 am to
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When this is over, the federal government should reimburse everyone that was interviewed and not been convicted by Mueller for their legal fees.


Actually, it should first drain the finances of Mueller and he henchmen, plus Comey, McCabe, Bannon, Clapper, Yates, Rice, Kerry, et al.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49509 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:48 am to
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This was an effort to render impotent any post-election revenge on DJT's part, and then allow Clinton minions to go Scorched Earth in a counterattack, ruining the Trump Empire in the process.


hmmm - had not thought of this. Makes more sense than anything else for why they invested so much in a campaign they thought they had in the bag.
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