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re: Clinton Aide/Pollster "Stop Mueller to protect us all"
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:06 am to AUstar
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:06 am to AUstar
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Veselnitskaya, a lawyer who had been working in the U.S. for YEARS?
What are you talking about? She is a Russian operative. She was caught trying to get a Swiss official to provide information to the Russians. The Swiss official was fired for seretly traveling to Moscow and meeting with Veselnitskaya.
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:17 am to texridder
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What are you talking about? She is a Russian operative. She was caught trying to get a Swiss official to provide information to the Russians. The Swiss official was fired for seretly traveling to Moscow and meeting with Veselnitskaya.
He is talking about her ties with the same person O was talking about
You are a hypocrite. Plain and simple!
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:19 am to ChexMix
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o you believe Hillary Clinton committed any crimes with her handling of classified information?
I don't know and neither do you. She certainly mishandled classified information. It would make some difference if the information was classified when she sent it or whether is was classified sometime later.
I believe the content and sensibility of the information would also have a bearing on whether it would have been prosecuted.
She screwed up. How bad is hard to know without the details, which we will get from the IG's investigation.
ETA: Now whether Billy-boy was talking about grandkids on the tarmac, that seems like a much harder pill to swallow.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 12:21 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:23 am to texridder
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I don't know and neither do you
Well, I do. And so does anyone who has applied for a secret or even a top secret security clearance or obtained one.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:30 am to Jjdoc
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You are lying now. I gave you a case, offered more cases to your rant on meeting with Russians.
What case did you give me? the one about Obama's Foreign Adviser visiting Russia in 2008.
Do you not even realize that that is not relevant to what happened with Page and the current investigation.
Do you know what a whataboutism is, and why it is a logical fallacy???
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:32 am to lsuguy84
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Well, I do. And so does anyone who has applied for a secret or even a top secret security clearance or obtained one.
And what is it that you know? Spit it out.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:33 am to texridder
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She screwed up. How bad is hard to know without the details, which we will get from the IG's investigation.
She claimed that she thought the "C" marking meaning CLASSIFIED was the paragraph number on an obviously classified document.
Please, please, please tell me that you're not stupid enough to believe that or to believe that she was not knowingly lying to the FBI when she said that.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 12:36 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:34 am to Jjdoc
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He is talking about her ties with the same person O was talking about
What person O (whoever that is ???) was talking about?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:37 am to CapperVin
he even shoots limp wristed!! Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:40 am to texridder
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She certainly mishandled classified information. It would make some difference if the information was classified when she sent it or whether is was classified sometime later.
I believe the content and sensibility of the information would also have a bearing on whether it would have been prosecuted.
She screwed up. How bad is hard to know without the details, which we will get from the IG's investigation.
That none of this matters if you or I were in the same boat. You dont get the "Oops my bad" defense. And she was handling secret information at the highest level.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:41 am to MMauler
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Please, please, please tell me that you're not stupid enough to believe that or to believe that she was not knowingly lying to the FBI when she said that.
I remember something about that but it did seem at the time to be kind of stupid on her part. Is she was wrong, it wouldn't surprise me if she made something up to try to explain it away.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:44 am to texridder
I leave you with this...
I have a buddy who mishandled a USB. He hasn't been able to shake it for 15 years...and he only had a secret. This guy cant even get Global Entry because of it. That's in addition to the immediate legal ramifications.
I have a buddy who mishandled a USB. He hasn't been able to shake it for 15 years...and he only had a secret. This guy cant even get Global Entry because of it. That's in addition to the immediate legal ramifications.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:44 am to lsuguy84
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That none of this matters if you or I were in the same boat. You dont get the "Oops my bad" defense. And she was handling secret information at the highest level.
So assume she did that, and she was grossly negligent, what would the punishment be?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:48 am to lsuguy84
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I have a buddy who mishandled a USB. He hasn't been able to shake it for 15 years...and he only had a secret. This guy cant even get Global Entry because of it. That's in addition to the immediate legal ramifications.
If she was prosecuted and convicted and she claimed extenuating circumstances (like human error or stupidity), what would be the jail time?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:48 am to texridder
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remember something about that but it did seem at the time to be kind of stupid on her part. Is she was wrong, it wouldn't surprise me if she made something up to try to explain it away.
You just cannot be THIS F*CKING STUPID.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:50 am to texridder
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What case did you give me? the one about Obama's Foreign Adviser visiting Russia in 2008. Do you not even realize that that is not relevant to what happened with Page and the current investigation.
We all realize and know your hypocrisy. These same actors that you see as foreign spies working to hurt the USA are the same ones in bed with DEMS.
You are lying and a hack. You are a hypocrite.
Veselnitskaya has been with most democrats and has a person SHE put in congress. Where is the investigation into that?
You see, you can come in here and talk about "whataboutism"s like that means anything to the conversation. It doesn't. All it shows is that you are a dishonest hack.
Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for Natalia Veselnitskaya working to defeat a law that is the hated object of a personal vendetta waged by Russian President Vladimir Putin. I assume you are all for sending him to prison for treason right?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 12:56 am to texridder
That depends on if they charge her with the Espionage Act or not. If she was prosecuted under that she would be facing 10 years in jail.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:02 am to MMauler
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You just cannot be THIS F*CKING STUPID.
Why don't you eat sh!t.
I said she said something stupid and that I wouldn't be surprised if she made something up to try to cover it up.
If that isn't good enough for you, tough titty.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:05 am to lsuguy84
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That depends on if they charge her with the Espionage Act or not. If she was prosecuted under that she would be facing 10 years in jail.
What's the other choice other than the espionage act and how long a penalty.
It dosen't seem like an Espionage case, but I'm sure not knowledgeable about the ins and outs of that. But i'm curious.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 1:06 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 1:23 am to texridder
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It dosen't seem like an Espionage case, but I'm sure not knowledgeable about the ins and outs of that
She willfully and unlawfully retained classified information in unauthorized places (and transmitted it to unauthorized people)...
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