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"Christian Nationalist" = "Sovereign Citizen"

Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5519 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:20 am
A Christian Nationalist is not just someone who believes that our rights are endowed by our Creator. A Christian Nationalist is someone who would disregard the applicable constitutions, supreme courts, and legislatures.

In other words, a "Christian Nationalist" is analogous to a "Sovereign Citizen," in that the Constitution, Supreme Court, and Congress do not apply to them.

Like our Founding Fathers, I believe in God. Without getting into the specifics of my denomination, I also agree with our Founding Fathers that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Unfortunately, the nature and extent of our rights are not clearly recorded by our Creator. Accordingly, like the Founding Father, I also believe that to secure the rights endowed by our Creator, governments are instituted deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

The Constitution of the United States sets forth several fundamental rights. One could quibble, however, about the level to which our Creator could be cited as the source of many of these rights.

Certainly most posters of the Political Talk board would zealously confirm that God is the source of the right to bear arms. Second Amendment. I agree that our Creator would see self-defense as fundamental even if we are advised to turn the other cheek.

However, the right to have no soldier quartered in our homes in time of peace, and only in a manner prescribed by law in time of war, seems like less of a concern of our Creator. Third Amendment.

Moreover, it's difficult to imagine our Creator advocating rights concerning indictments, double jeopardy, jury trials, compulsory process, and assistance of counsel. Fifth and Sixth Amendments.

Accordingly, I agree that we are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights. However, I disagree with Christian Nationalists that our Creator cataloged the nature and extent of those rights. I further disagree with Christian Nationalists that we should disregard disregard the applicable constitutions and decisions of our supreme courts and legislatures.

America is governed by the rule of law. I love America. It's the best country in the world. I don't believe that any person, whether they describe themselves as a Christian Nationalist, Sovereign Citizen, or regular criminal, can declare that they are subject to their own set of laws, and are not subject to American rule of law as established in the applicable constitutions and decisions of our supreme courts and legislatures.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:22 am to
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A Christian Nationalist is not just someone who believes that our rights are endowed by our Creator. A Christian Nationalist is someone who would disregard the applicable constitutions, supreme courts, and legislatures.


No, it’s not. Shut the frick up, idiot.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98864 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:26 am to
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In other words, a "Christian Nationalist" is analogous to a "Sovereign Citizen," in that the Constitution, Supreme Court, and Congress do not apply to them.


How deep in your arse did you have to reach to pull this out?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21547 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:27 am to
"Christian nationalists won't respect the courts and laws!"

Also.

"Open the borders, sanctuary cities everywhere!"

I'd take this concern seriously if it didn't describe everyone. Virtually no one will say they'll bind themselves and their society to the whims of a court regardless of what the ruling is.

Would you support the courts if they allow for the killing of children under 13?

No, of course not.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5519 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:28 am to
quote:

quote:

A Christian Nationalist is not just someone who believes that our rights are endowed by our Creator. A Christian Nationalist is someone who would disregard the applicable constitutions, supreme courts, and legislatures.
No, it’s not. Shut the frick up, idiot.
Christian Nationalists believe that their rights are set forth in the applicable constitutions and decisions of the supreme courts and legislatures?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:31 am to
Everyone has an internal moral compass that they hold higher than the laws of the land. Leftist who cry about the Christian Nationalists ignoring the law gathered outside a Supreme Court justice’s house because they didn’t believe in the “law of the land.”

You’re a fricking idiot and haven’t thought five minutes about anything of importance your entire life. No one has ever learned anything listening to you. Shut up and go back to whatever board you normally post on, fig.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:35 am to
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"Christian Nationalist" = "Normal Person"


FIFY
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22407 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 11:44 am to
The OP is the exact reason I always make someone define a term before asking me if I fall into it.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27433 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 12:40 pm to
Both are clowns holed up in out of the way places sometimes playing soldier with other like minded fools . They are overall harmless to people other than themselves.

Most should not procreate.
Posted by Tigerfan016
Member since May 2014
214 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 12:40 pm to
The iron law of woke projection never misses
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27896 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 12:42 pm to
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"Christian Nationalist"

Is the newest derogatory term for what was previously referred to as an American

The commies are trying to turn the following statements against us

* "the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them"
* "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"
* "Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world"
* "one Nation under God"
* And this be our motto - “In God is our trust,”
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6155 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 12:45 pm to
Consent to be governed? Like consent or die? There’s way too much wrong in all that, go smoke a joint and clear your head.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
12131 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:50 pm to
Christian Nationalist is a made-up word. A word to try to label people that disagree with liberal idiots as extremists.






There is no block of people that think exactly the same. There are those that do believe in Christ. He is our Saviour and Saviour to the world, not just the USA. In fact he is probably pretty disgusted with what is going on in this country.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Salviati
Someone is filling your head with lies. Reboot your brain, its malfunctioning
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15125 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:03 pm to
America is the first secular nation. The creation of the United States and the freedom of religion, will be the downfall of religion.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:03 pm to
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You’re a fricking idiot and haven’t thought five minutes about anything of importance your entire life. No one has ever learned anything listening to you. Shut up and go back to whatever board you normally post on, fig.

JFC, that's all you fricking have.

NEWSFLASH: No one has learned a goddamned thing from reading your posts either, outside of the fact that your head is full of fart gas. Maybe it's time for you to take your own advice and sit down and shut the frick up.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:05 pm to
Wow
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54630 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

"Christian Nationalist" = "Sovereign Citizen"


Not sure I understand a lot of what you are saying in your post, but probably the only POTUS that could claim this would be Jimmy Carter. Lots of fake Christian POTUS since Carter.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54630 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:12 pm to
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the fact that your head is full of fart gas.


How much methane we talking here?

We could have stumbled on the real source of Global Warming.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 2:33 pm to
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No one has learned a goddamned thing from reading your posts either, outside of the fact that your head is full of fart gas. Maybe it's time for you to take your own advice and sit down and shut the frick up.


False. You could fill encyclopedias with what I could teach you. What subject would you like to learn?
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