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China cutting liberal arts and humanities degrees out of colleges and adding tech degrees

Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:42 am
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:42 am
US should do the same or we will be falling way behind China in the technology workforce.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:51 am to
No need to go that far. Just don’t offer student loans for anything but STEM.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24330 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:06 am to
It's a good move by China and Trump has moved in this direction also.
China needs to figure out where to get young people to enroll in these programs, in the coming decades they will have very high decreasing numbers of young people.

Grok on Trump's trade/technical programs: it list them in detail also. Here is a summary

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Yes — through the 2025 Executive Order and related DOL actions, Trump has actively started/accelerated initiatives to promote and expand trade and technical training pathways specifically to encourage more young people to enroll and build careers in skilled trades.


Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8509 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:42 am to
They figured out what we've known for decades.....a degree in Advanced Underwater Basketweaving is far more useful than any humanities degree.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38767 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:05 am to
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US should do the same


As someone who works at AI company and has been involved in software and tech for nearly 2 decades.

No. That is a terrible idea.

Go read some Iain McGilchrist and get back to me.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7433 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:15 am to
We are behind. China is an amazing place. Nothing like I expected.
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:06 pm to
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No need to go that far. Just don’t offer student loans for anything but STEM.

Since student loans pay for the majority of programs, except in the most boutique of schools... this will have the same effect. The schools will themselves cut liberal arts studies, majors and classes.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42071 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:18 pm to
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As someone who works at AI company and has been involved in software and tech for nearly 2 decades. No. That is a terrible idea. Go read some Iain McGilchrist and get back to me


AI makes those jobs pointless?
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9745 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:21 pm to
You have it wrong. The last thing the future needs is more people with no knowledge of who they are, where they come from, or what they should stand for. That’s what the humanities is for.

Tech training is fine and dandy and we should expand it… but it takes more than just that to create better thinkers, leaders, and innovators.
Posted by COAUTiger
Lil town called Nunyogotdambidness
Member since Jun 2012
365 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:25 pm to
So no loans for history, political science, psychology, criminology, economics, business, finance, marketing, accounting and teaching to name a few?
Posted by RobertFootball
SC
Member since Mar 2021
2771 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:26 pm to
We have kids graduating highschool that can’t even read. We need to overhaul our entire educational system not just college, it needs to start at the elementary level.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:43 pm to
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Go read some Iain McGilchrist and get back to me.

I read his wikipedia page. Interesting thoughts. Thanks.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2102 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:51 pm to
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No need to go that far. Just don’t offer student loans for anything but STEM.


I've advocated for this for years
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4615 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:52 pm to
How can anyone seriously believe these schools of thought don’t contribute to the beauty of America or to the reason we don’t have eight-year-olds working in sweatshops for 30 cents an hour.

It’s baffling.

Every GUI on every device you use is touched by someone outside of STEM. It has to be intuitive, human-centered, and usable. No one wants to live in a world where the default interface looks like straight Linux command line. The arts, humanities, and social sciences shape the world just as much as the engineering behind it.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
39339 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:56 pm to
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You have it wrong. The last thing the future needs is more people with no knowledge of who they are, where they come from, or what they should stand for. That’s what the humanities is for.



This is exactly right.
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
4194 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 1:58 pm to
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How can anyone seriously believe these schools of thought don’t contribute to the beauty of America or to the reason we don’t have eight-year-olds working in sweatshops for 30 cents an hour.

It’s baffling.

Every GUI on every device you use is touched by someone outside of STEM. It has to be intuitive, human-centered, and usable. No one wants to live in a world where the default interface looks like straight Linux command line. The arts, humanities, and social sciences shape the world just as much as the engineering behind it.


The modern USA college? It is a progressive nightmare. I worked in Higher Ed for a decade and if it dies, it dies. It needs reform. Focus on STEM and trade jobs.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
39339 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:02 pm to
It's my opinion that liberal arts schooling should happen at the high school level like it used to be back when the US led the world in education metrics. That began to fall off when they removed it from the curriculum around the time we began educating knob turners for the industrial revolution. Now we are way down the list.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174907 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:04 pm to
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US should do the same or we will be falling way behind China in the technology workforce.

You could make an argument that this has already happened
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
174907 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Focus on STEM and trade jobs.

Sure. But that doesn't mean we should ignore all other fields of study.

Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14346 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:09 pm to
Pretty stupid to do so
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