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Charter and Disney

Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:48 pm
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:48 pm
Not sure if covered on other boards but because Disney figured it could be discussed here.

While I feel a resolution is inevitable, it appears we have hit the turning point between sports watching and the masses ditching cable.

The guy who ran dish before going to charter cut off all the Sinclair local sport's causing them to go bankrupt.

Now imagine what happens to all the money promised by espn and abc and Disney to sports if charter just cuts them off. ESPN potentially folds. Sports teams lose massive revenues. Potential collapse of pay scales. College sports programs.

Personally I would love to see it.

LINK

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https://www.nexttv.com/news/how-ready-is-charter-to-let-disney-and-espn-walk-


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There is no precedent for what Charter now seems prepared to do. But in the early hours of Friday morning, less than 12 hours after it took down ESPN, ABC and the rest of the Disney cable TV universe in a carriage dispute, Charter held a conference call, during which it made it clear that this isn’t blackout business as usual. “Charter seems genuinely willing to walk away from Disney, and even the entire linear video model, if necessary,”
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39170 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:51 pm to
Dish has already lost customers over this. Charter will too. People want their football and they'll go to whoever has it.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3253 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:52 pm to
It’s way overdue. My neighbor worked for a small cable company and she told me ESPN charged them $5 per household per month. That was like 7% of their gross revenue and this was 5 years ago. I hope the people get tired of it and can support a walk out.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:56 pm to
I think charter has done the math and the lost subscription va amounts demanded with an entirely new model may work.

I guess everyone can go to YouTube but remember, maybe they put it on Disney plus and Hulu it your limited to your subscribers not feee tv or maybe over the air but you lose ad revenue that way.

It's a house of cards over billions of dollars.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28827 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

Dish has already lost customers over this. Charter will too. People want their football and they'll go to whoever has it.


I don’t watch a second of ESPN outside of September-April. We watch it pretty hard with Tennis, football and men’s and women’s March Madness.

If you told me it was all gone tomorrow I could easily go on with my life.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
7974 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

I think charter has done the math and the lost subscription va amounts demanded with an entirely new model may work.


I think Charter/Spectrum is also seeing how many of their customer base ditched them in the first week to determine their response. I have Spectrum and essentially missed the first weekend of college football. And I am still alive somehow.

Disney is the clear villain here. I am not going to chase after them. frick em. I hope they fold. Someone else will buy ESPN. Surely they can’t be worse than Disney.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10758 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:21 pm to
Don’t care. IPTV is the way to
Go, if you are smart enough to figure it out
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4912 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:06 pm to
Who do you use for iptv?
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30091 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 10:17 pm to
Tell us more about iptv
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45712 posts
Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:05 pm to
Or Kodi with an add-on that carries sports streams.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:02 am to
Or familiar with IPTV or Kodi

How do they work?
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4693 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:19 am to
quote:

Disney is the clear villain here. I am not going to chase after them. frick em. I hope they fold. Someone else will buy ESPN. Surely they can’t be worse than Disney.



OP has it correct. For all of those who talk about alternatives, it's the game Disney and others play. This will come to your carriage company when the time is right. YouTube TV, Hulu, you name it.

I hope Disney gets it in the neck!
Posted by DaphneTigah
Flying under the radar.
Member since Dec 2007
4978 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 6:59 am to
Charter is my #1 customer. I do over 100million dollars in construction work in their network annually. The cable operators are shifting their business models. The younger generations are cutting the cord and streaming everything. Cable operators are more focused on transitioning from cable subscriber counts to being an ISP with a fast reliable network. It’s the future. Cable is dying FAST.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 7:22 am
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3378 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Don’t care. IPTV is the way to
Go, if you are smart enough to figure it out


This keeps being brought up, but what they don't realize is that the majority want ease of use. They don't want to be flipping inputs every so often or changing settings. You have to realize that people are lazy and are not going to put in the work for this setup.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:52 am to
quote:

I have Spectrum and essentially missed the first weekend of college football. And I am still alive somehow.

Yeah frick all that. I was beyond pissed last weekend about it. Basically Charter just upped the price of my plan starting in August and then cut out all the networks I actually watch. Virtue signaling or not, Spectrum isn’t the good guy here. This isn’t 1993. YouTube TV can be up and running in 20 mins. I’m not missing football. Sorry guys.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4968 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Personally I would love to see it.



ESPN is a crappy network run by one of the world's worst monopolies.

I'd love to see them break.

Some other monopoly like Apple would just buy them up, though, and we'd be back to square one.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34876 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:00 am to
Well, thanks for a different take. I was pissed at Spectrum for selling me a package and then cutting one of its main items. The SEC Channel for LSU sports. I assumed that it was Disney who had Spectrum on the ropes and was pushing for more $, blackmail in effect knowing that Spectrum had sold a lot of folks on access to ESPN et al.

My Entergy power has gone off twice this week, at about the same time when it's most hot and demand the greatest. I assume that given the current and coming socio-economic disaster (Stagflation) that the good old days of plenty will be going away for all but the elite in the 'Party'.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5539 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:16 am to
quote:

. Cable operators are more focused on transitioning from cable subscriber counts to being an ISP with a fast reliable network. It’s the future. Cable is dying FAST.


So, moved in w gf a few months ago. She a had att internet which sucks. I had spectrum. I also had YouTube tv. When I moved I was able to use spectrum online and it was as nice as YouTube

I'm thinking of switching to spectrum internet and their tv. I think it's about $40 month cheaper.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:17 am to
Disney streaming is dying, there is a power shift back to cable.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1343 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Dish has already lost customers over this. Charter will too. People want their football and they'll go to whoever has it.

Charter, Dish etc. don’t make people sign contracts?
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